Heer dagger review

[loren]

Hello friends
please I would like your opinion (authentic or reproduction ?) on this army dagger with no mention of manufacturer.
any chance to identify the maker ?
thanks

[Billy G]

The crossguard is a Generic A type, which was used by a lot of smaller cottage type manufacturers. The scabbard with that single screw configuration is a WKC product, however WKC used a slightly different style crossguard.

It looks like a nice unmolested example but I'm sure some of the Army specialists will have better details for yours.

[Bulldog]

I agree with Billy, the crossguard and pommel are generic A types and the scabbard is WKC. Although WKC are thought to have been the manufacturer of the generic A pommel and guard there is too much of a chance that the scabbard has been switched, and with plenty of army daggers available why take that chance.

Russ.

[loren]

Thanks for the feedback Billy and Russ. "Bulldog" !
Regards
Laurent

[DALE ELLIS]

Just my opinion but this wave of....this is a parts dagger because it has a part made by so and so and so and so never so in so....is not really accurate. Now I admit before everybody got wise and started looking at who made what there was a lot of parts swapping going on but I also believe it may have happened more than you would think pre May 45. Back in my youth I worked for a farm equipment manufacture and we regularly would get parts form other manufacturers if we ran short on parts we made and they did the same from us. I would bet anything that the dagger manufactures did the same and I believe it is even documented so I wouldn't discount a dagger just because it had a part from a different company.

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[Billy G]

Dale,

I'm not saying it's either a good or a bad piece, just identifying parts as they appear since that's what the original poster requested. It's up to him whether it's worthwhile as is or not.

[Dion]

To answer the original questions, its 100% original in all parts and was most probably manufactured this way, but its impossible to narrow it down to a certain maker as the parts used are the generic type that were used by several makers. Its a late period dagger judging by the quality of the grip.

[Schlange]

Dagger itself is standard generic type A, but im not shure about scabbard. (Scabbard bands and throat screw are definitely not generic type A standad.)


Schlange

My collection

https://zbiralci.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=21196

[Bulldog]

WKC were the only company to use a single side scabbard throat screw, the screw is also a correct flat head type for WKC.
Loren, can you show the opening to the scabbard throat, is it oval shaped?

Russ.

[loren]

Hello all
Unfortunately I have no direct photo of the mouth of the scabbard, only this photo I’ve attached below :
AC8E2AB9-EBBD-4769-A7A6-1805FC36822B.jpeg This dagger with porte épée and double suspender was sold at auction in Germany at 360 euros plus cost (22,5 pour-cent ) that is to say 441 euros, quite a low price isn’t it ?. I was not the buyer.

I did not buy it because of your doubts considering it could be a parts dagger.

I would like to find one good complete white grip Heer dagger one day, fingers crossed...

regards

Loren

[Bulldog]

I think you made the right decision not to buy it.

Russ.