Why so many Thuringians?

[ivbaust]

Gebrüder Böhme Nachfolger from Brotterode

[ivbaust]

Group picture of Gebrüder Heller from Schmalkalden (honor dagger with small logo and service dagger with large logo), J.P. Sauer & Sohn from Suhl and Wilhelm Kober from Suhl

[ivbaust]

Haenel from Suhl. The SA honor dagger with the Röhm inscription (on the left, here a Full ground Röhm) has the logo slightly closer to the crossguard compared to the regular SA Service dagger (on the right)

[ivbaust]

Here’s a better visualization of the difference

[ivbaust]

Ok guys, show us your SA daggers from Thuringia

[Ron Weinand]

Neihardt & Schmidt

Nice dark motto & TM

[ivbaust]

VERY GOOD information here and good analysis of party influence on the dagger business of the period.

Thank you, Ron

[Frogprince]

As far as I know, 233 metalworking companies produced early daggers for the SA and the NSKK in the 3rd Reich in 1934/35, which feature the company logo on the blade (I´m not including the transitional and late RZM daggers).

It´s well known, due to its history, that Solingen was the undisputed world center of blades and edged weapon manufacturing and it is therefore hardly surprising that the largest part of the SA / NSKK dagger production came from Solingen and the surrounding area: namely 198 companies, which corresponds to 85%.

But why did the region of Thuringia have the second largest collection of SA / NSKK dagger manufacturers? Namely 21 companies, which corresponds to 9%! Finally, there were some other areas in Germany where there were metalworking companies. Why haven't these been awarded contracts, but rather so many in the Thuringia region?

Here is a regional overview of the 233 manufacturers (only early SA / NSKK daggers with logo):

- 199 from North Rhine-Westphalia (197 Solingen including all districts, 1 Haan, 1 Remscheid)
- 22 from Thuringia (3 Brotterode, 1 Herges-Vogtei, 1 Marienthal, 2 Schmalkalden, 1 Schweina, 8 Steinbach, 1 Steinbach-Hallenberg, 3 Suhl, 2 Zella-Mehlis)
- 7 from Bavaria (1 Muggendorf, 3 München, 1 Bayreuth, 1 Gefrees, 1 Deggendorf)
- 3 from Baden-Württemberg (1 Canstatt, 1 Esslingen, 1 Tuttlingen)
- 1 from Saxony (Neustadt)
- 1 from Berlin

If this is not correct, I would be grateful for a hint

Thuringia also had the interest of gun collectors who sometimes referred to an area known as the "Thuringian Triangle". Home to some of best gunmakers in Germany it had an abundance of what we might now call an 'Industrial Base' that supported the creation of not just daggers - but also other items that were exported, as well as those that went to the Wehrmacht. FP

[Reichsword]

My only Thuringian/ NSSK

[tobau]

Great thread
My first sa was a "Thüringer-Thuringia" one-a Haenel.
Here is my only SA-for now.

[JohnZ]

What a great thread.

Thank you,

John

[Mac 66]

Interesting thread Ingo, thank you, great work

[Volksturmer]

Great work, Ingo, Great research.

Really impressive info on this subject, I had no idea it was this detailed. An incredibly detailed job.

Excellent!!

John