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    I thought some people would have an interest in morsekeysused onboard Luftwaffe airplanes. here is one version, with " rubber sole" to keep it on the table in f ex bombers, transportplanes.

    More photos to come

    http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...femorsekey.jpg
    Last edited by la5he@yahoo.no; 04-04-2009, 01:47 PM.

    #2
    T1

    I don't think the T1 was for use in airplanes, it was typically used with ground installations.

    The typical morse key used with the FuG 10 was the T2, this was fixed in the aircraft on a special mounting plate that held the morse key firmly in place. With the FuG 17, the T17 was used, which fitted on the same mount, but had a thicker base that housed an anti sparking filter. Also in aircraft the morse key would be hard wired into the radio installation, so there would not be a plug on the end of the cable.

    Attached a picture of a T2 next to the mounting plate:


    Your morse key would more likely have been used with eg. the 5 W.S. or the 100 W.S. or any other transmitter used by the luftwaffe on the ground.

    regards,

    Funksammler

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      #3
      [Your morse key would more likely have been used with eg. the 5 W.S. or the 100 W.S. or any other transmitter used by the luftwaffe on the ground.

      Funksammler[/QUOTE]

      I stand corrected. The Ln-number confused me. The army had some army sets transfered to them for ground stations, f. ex 5WS and 100 WS as well as Torn Fu b1, according to Fritz Trenkle.
      Last edited by la5he@yahoo.no; 04-04-2009, 06:34 PM.

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        #4
        Question? What keys would the Army use. I have the T1 and the mouse key, which seem to me to be the most common type used by the army. Other than the types used in aircraft are there any other types? I have seen in pictures both types in use by the army.

        Alan

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          #5
          Originally posted by umformer View Post
          Question? What keys would the Army use. I have the T1 and the mouse key, which seem to me to be the most common type used by the army. Other than the types used in aircraft are there any other types? I have seen in pictures both types in use by the army.

          Alan
          The weather was so fantastic , you inspired me to get some keys out in the open and take a photo of the various types used by Germans during WW2.

          Ragnar

          http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...2morsekeys.jpg

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            #6
            Morse Keys

            Nice collection of morse keys Ragnar. In answering the question about the keys used by the Army, the standard key was the "Taste P", an early example of which you can see on the left and the fourth key from the left in Ragnar's picture.

            The Ta P is essentially the same as the T1 discussed earlier, the different numbering reflects the separate procurement system operated by the Luftwaffe (the Luftwaffe was basically set up independently from the Army by the Nazi's to be able to control it, but that's another story....). Later versions of the Ta P are no longer marked, they can be found with metal and bakelite base plates, with and without rubber base.

            The Ta P was used with most Army transmitters (5, 10, 20, 30, 80, 100 W.S.) and portable tranceivers (Torn.Fu.d2, b1, c, f, k etc.)

            A smaller version of the Ta P was the Taste Klein P (TK P), also known as the "Mauschen" or little mouse. You can see one in the middle of Ragnar's picture. The TK P was issued with the Torn.Fu.g. There is a female press stud on the bottom of the key, with which it can be fastened to a special base plate, in this form it was used in some armoured vehicles like the Sd Kfz 251 command vehicle, connected to the 30 W.S or 80 W.S.

            There is also a mixture of the Ta P and TK P, the bakelite housing of the Mauschen fixed to a metal base plate and the longer key handle from the Ta P, I assume this was a relatively late version, saving on materials and labour.

            Some of the heavier sets used the Junkers (on the right on Ragnar's picture). The Junkers is the "Rolls Royce" of morse keys and still sought after by radio amateurs and collectors alike. One difference with the Ta P is that both the make and break contacts can be used, and it therefor has a three pin plug. It was used for example with the Lo 40 K 39 or AS 59 transmitters.

            Other variations exist, but these keys were used with the majority of sets.

            Regards,

            Funksammler.

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              #7
              Heres some pictures of my keys









              alan

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                #8
                Very nice, Allan. I have one of the mouse-keys with the base-plate also .
                In fact I have several mouse-keys and Ta P s , so if somebody needs one let me know.

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                  #9
                  Some of the heavier sets used the Junkers (on the right on Ragnar's picture). The Junkers is the "Rolls Royce" of morse keys and still sought after by radio amateurs and collectors alike. One difference with the Ta P is that both the make and break contacts can be used, and it therefor has a three pin plug. It was used for example with the Lo 40 K 39 or AS 59 transmitters.

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                  One of these magnificent morse keys are for sale in Georgia, USA. I saw it at the e-market on this forum.

                  So a good opportunity for US based collectors !

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                    #10
                    Some more Morse keys

                    A few more morse keys to enjoy:

                    <a href="http://s672.photobucket.com/albums/vv86/Funksammler/?action=view&current=DSC01047.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv86/Funksammler/DSC01047.jpg" border="0" alt="Morse keys"></a>

                    From left to right: TK P; late war Ta P based on a TK P; brand new late war Ta P in original packaging; rare variation of the TK P mounted on a metal base (100 points for who can guess what it goes with).

                    regards,

                    Funksammler

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                      #11
                      Very nice.

                      I have mouse key with a bakelite base. not metal like yours. Must be several versions ! 73 Ragnar

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                        #12
                        Special morse key

                        The morse key on the right is acutally from a german version of the "Fullerphone". Originally developed by the British as an uninterceptable form of line communication, the germans build a version in WW2 fitted in a standard field telephone box. The morse key is stored in the lid with a special clamp, hence to shape of the metal base of the key.

                        regards,

                        Funksammler

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                          #13
                          Now we know it was called SuTel40. The baseplate with a 45° cut edge is easily distinguishing it.

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