Headphones help needed

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Guys, I have a set of headphones with combined microphone in my collection. They are marked " Kopffernsprecher 41". Can anyone tell me what they were used in conjunction with?
Cheers, Ade.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Detail of markings.

[J Melvin]

Ade, can you show me the plug? Thanks.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Jack, sorry the plug has been cut off but the lead is about 4 feet long.
Cheers, Ade.

[J Melvin]

Ade, it's hard to say what its usage was without the plug. The Germans seemed to pretty well use the same type of headsets for both their transmitter/receivers and also with their field telephone sets. My guess, though, because of the elastic set-up, it was either used with a field phone or a pack-style radio so that the user could wear it and keep his hands free.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Jack, thanks for your help.
Cheers, Ade.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Just came across this old thread of mine and wondered now we have a Comms forum if any more light can be shed on these?

Cheers, Ade.

[sturmann]

Salut,

I am curious about this kopffernsprecher 41 and resurect the thread in case a new member would have info on them ?

thanks,
yves

[Funksammler]

These types of headsets were designed for intercom use in noisy environments and were for example worn by artillery men, in fortified locations or on ships. They either had a normal five pin telephone plug or a round four pin plug for use with Kriegsmarine equipment. I think your type had the five pin telephone plug and could have been used by eg a 88 flak gun crew. (There were five pin sockets on the 88 gun mounting at various stations). They are not typically associated with radio equipment.

regards,

Funksammler

[Funksammler]

Although I said these types were not generally associated with radio's, there is of course the exception: the Lo 1 UK 35 "UK - Marine - Tornistergeraet". On reflection it looks like your headset belongs to this set and would have had a round, plug with four contacts.

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regards,

Funksammler

[Adrian Stevenson]

I was surprised to see this old thread come back to life, but pleased to read the new info. Thank you very much!

Cheers, Ade.

[sturmann]

Salut,

Many thanks for the info

yves

[sturmann]

Salut FunkSammler,


The Lo135uk on the photo you showed is the Tornistergerät version which, if I am not mistaken, can be used in coastal Artillerie fortifications - both by the Heer and the KM ?

Here is a photo of the "on board" sea version of this radio - please note the difference on the headphone - those are round.



From those 2 photos there seems to be 2 versions of the same headphone for the same radio set .
Could it be that the reason for are 2 versions of those sets depending :

- land vs sea use,
- the date : early vs late modification,
or
- KM vs Heer coast Art equipment ?

Thanks,
yves

[Funksammler]

As far as I am aware the LO1UK35 was exclusively used by the Kriegsmarine. The set wcould be placed in a special frame on board for ship to ship communication. They could be taken by boarding parties or taken ashore to keep contact with the mother ship. I suppose they could have also been used in Kriegsmarine shore batteries for emergency communication in case the telephone lines were damaged.

I have looked at the origninal handbook for the LO1UK35, but it does not specify a typenumber for the headset, so I can't rule out that slightly different types were supplied with the set.

The four pin headset connection on the set is identical to the standard Kriegsmarine intercom connection, so it is also possible that a crewmember on a ship would use a different headset with the radio.

regards,

Funksammler

[sturmann]

Saut,

Many thanks for taking the time to search for your instruction manuals and many thans for the complement of info

yves