what do I have here?

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

.

[anmarlodz]

Fuerschutzpolizei visor cap.

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

Fuerschutzpolizei visor cap.

thank you

[stonemint]

No, not a fireman's cap--they had black velvet bands with carmine piping.

Is the piping red or orange?
Is the band black wool?

This could be a cap that was used in the immediate postwar era.

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

No, not a fireman's cap--they had black velvet bands with carmine piping.

Is the piping red or orange?
Is the band black wool?

This could be a cap that was used in the immediate postwar era.

cap is blue, band is black and piping looks red to me

[wilhelm Saris]

Too me it looks a cap for the "Vlaamse Wacht" from Belgium (if being Original), but I do not know what color for the piping exactly was used (no time to have a look).
Red was also in use with other organizations from Belgium.
The insignia is anyway as was worn by them. Within the wreath other Roman numbers could be used, as II, III. This number means "Afdeling". It is a Third Reich-
force. The wreath with Roman number was worn above the right pocket of the tunic. Also a field-cap was worn by enlisted ranks.

It is a pity I cannot show photos, as I have some in wear of the enlisted cap and officer and field-cap, all excellent quality portrait photographs!

[stonemint]

Too me it looks a cap for the "Vlaamse Wacht" from Belgium (if being Original), but I do not know what color for the piping exactly was used (no time to have a look).
Red was also in use with other organizations from Belgium.
The insignia is anyway as was worn by them. Within the wreath other Roman numbers could be used, as II, III. This number means "Afdeling". It is a Third Reich-
force. The wreath with Roman number was worn above the right pocket of the tunic. Also a field-cap was worn by enlisted ranks.

It is a pity I cannot show photos, as I have some in wear of the enlisted cap and officer and field-cap, all excellent quality portrait photographs!

Wim has graciously allowed me to post his pix of this type of hat in wear:

[anmarlodz]

Interesting. Something new for me.

[wilhelm Saris]

Interesting. Something new for me.

There are numerous obscure organizations, nazi linked, in Belgium. Some with great insignia.
Could not find the color for the piping in my files, but the Roman numbering:

Abteilung I (Gent)
Abteilung II (Antwerpen)
Abteilung III (Oudenaarde)
Abteilung IV (Brussel)

[DougO]

Great input again from Wim!
Learned something new.
Very interesting.
Doug

[OSS]

Agree, interesting obscure III Reich era piece of headgear. I hope it finds a good home.

[stonemint]

Italian War Front--can you read who the maker is, and the town?

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

Italian War Front--can you read who the maker is, and the town?

here we go

[stonemint]

Must be a decent demand for these--hat went for $960.

[OSS]

Must be a decent demand for these--hat went for $960.

Of course it only takes two interested parties to boost an item at auction and if you were looking for one of these I imagine you would have a hard time finding one.