Luftwaffe and panzer visors

[Van]

Hi all....

A friend of mine is buying out a military collection dating back to the Civil War ( that is when this family's Great Grandfather started collecting) and has been passed down and added to from Great Grandfather to Grandfather to Father who recently passed away. There is an incredible amount of items, uniforms, boots, helmets, visor caps, medals, insignia, field gear, parachutes, foot lockers and it just goes on and on...
There are a couple of visors I have questions about, one Luftwaffe and one Panzer, if these are original , they just came out of the factory they are in such good unworn condition. Any help is appreciated.
Van

[Van]

Luftwaffe...

[Van]

Luftwaffe ....

[Van]

Panzer Visor
sorry about the dark photos, weather is terrible here.

[Van]

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[Van]

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[pauke]

hats

They are both reproductions.

[Van]

Thanks,, I had a feeling

[enorepap]

Hallo van

In my humble opinion, I see two Alteste visors

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...hlight=alteste

Best regards

[billbert]

COLLECTABLE in their own right..but POSTWAR reproduction sassembled in west Germany nonetheless...Billbert

Maybe with 300 bucks for the pair..

[jmcm]

They are both reproductions.

[stonemint]

There must have been a serious shortage of bullion insignia back in the 1960s--one rarely sees Altestes with bullion insignia (fake or original).

[Van]

Thanks for the information guys..
I used to have a nice reproduction "doe skin" panzer officer visor with the same construction and lining, so when I saw these I had a feeling they were the same made repros....
Van