e-stand marine visor

[R.Beck]

Guess I gotta be the bad guy here but....Unfortunately its been sold as period and shouldn't have. I guess I'm partly to blame because I just figured someone else would have called this out as bad days ago.
Not sure if Marc's lifetime status scared folks away from commenting, but this cap is utterly post war garbage.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=870008

[stonemint]

I would have to agree with Mr. Beck--the visor itself is BRD; the lack of an RZM tag; lack of the political chinstrap; and lastly, it appears to have the triple serial #s under the sweatband.

[Marc verstraete]

Dear fellow collectors,

I was directed to this thread by another member, less "reserved" and "shy" than others to point out my mistakes.

I have, in other threads explained why, I have the past two weeks mistakenly offered caps who where not what they where supposed to be.

The NSKK marine cap we are talking about here was posted before I realised a part of my "headgear" collection could be "questionable"
See the posts on the WH, WL generals , the SS visor eagles and the SA feldjeager caps .

I have, off course , immediately cancelled the sale of the NSKK marine cap after reading this post.

I will not longly go over the reasons this happen. I did this already.
I'm know as a buckle "expert" . I believe this is still the case. All the "rest" ... the cloth, tunics, caps, etc ... has always been a "side collection" accumulated during the period 1975 to 1990 . When I definitely stopped buying anything else than buckles. Books did not exist and info was scarce. When looking at the caps page 221 and 222 of Angolias NSKK book one can easily see my mistake; And when i got the cap even that book did not exist... Since last week, I have learned not to offer anything out of my collection I'm not 100% certain of and for the rest I put it for review on the forum. I do would appreciate a little more "action" from knowledgable members when I post something " iffy" My status of "lifetime member " do not give me a divine status ! When I was moderator of the buckles section, NEVER a fake or a uncertain buckle would have passed a test ... I made quit a number of enemies but collectors could count on me not to lie or stay silent ...

This said, thank you guys for the help on the other caps I mentioned.

best regards,
Marc

[Marc verstraete]

I suppose the insignias are OK ...
M.

[Marc verstraete]

Or not ?

[R.Beck]

Dear fellow collectors,

I was directed to this thread by another member, less "reserved" and "shy" than others to point out my mistakes.

I have, in other threads explained why, I have the past two weeks mistakenly offered caps who where not what they where supposed to be.

The NSKK marine cap we are talking about here was posted before I realised a part of my "headgear" collection could be "questionable"
See the posts on the WH, WL generals , the SS visor eagles and the SA feldjeager caps .

I have, off course , immediately cancelled the sale of the NSKK marine cap after reading this post.

I will not longly go over the reasons this happen. I did this already.
I'm know as a buckle "expert" . I believe this is still the case. All the "rest" ... the cloth, tunics, caps, etc ... has always been a "side collection" accumulated during the period 1975 to 1990 . When I definitely stopped buying anything else than buckles. Books did not exist and info was scarce. When looking at the caps page 221 and 222 of Angolias NSKK book one can easily see my mistake; And when i got the cap even that book did not exist... Since last week, I have learned not to offer anything out of my collection I'm not 100% certain of and for the rest I put it for review on the forum. I do would appreciate a little more "action" from knowledgable members when I post something " iffy" My status of "lifetime member " do not give me a divine status ! When I was moderator of the buckles section, NEVER a fake or a uncertain buckle would have passed a test ... I made quit a number of enemies but collectors could count on me not to lie or stay silent ...

This said, thank you guys for the help on the other caps I mentioned.

best regards,
Marc

Thanks for being one of the good guys!

[stonemint]

Ditto the above...

[stonemint]

& yes, the insignia looks good.

[Marc verstraete]

NSKK Marine season Two !
The return ... !!!!

Hi guy's :-) !'m back ....

Why,?

I'm still not over the way I was treated as a moron and "amateur" by a few members on the forum so I like to point a few things out ....

I quote: " approximatively" the reply that was posted when requesting some help...
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""You just had to look page xxx in my book to find your answer ""

Well ..... I did !!!! And here is page 419 of W. Saris "Bible and holly regulations" of the "Headgear of hitlers Germany" Volume 4;

The cap pictured and described here is not just a NSKK Marine cap . It "IS" "THE" cap in question ! Not another one . The one I posted and that was shot down in flames.

So ... I'm a buckle collector, I dear to say , one of the leading experts on the subject.
But, I don't know much about cloth anymore ... So, I look at "the bible of regulations" ... To "GOD"
Like buckles collectors look at the book I participated at for references on buckles.

And what do I see, "GOD" is "WRONG" !!! "GOD" has a FAKE cap in his bible !!

Or maybe Stonemint and a few other longtime collectors and experts on headgear are wrong ??? (I don't think so) ... And my cap that is now taken in pieces and worth sh...t , original after all ???

But I'm the stupid one .... ???

[Marc verstraete]

;

[stonemint]

Marc, I do not know where anyone directed any personal attacks at you--I do not see any in this thread.

In any event, fakes have been published in the headgear books going back to the 1960s, and they will continue to published as original in the future.

Unfortunately, every headgear (or uniform) reference book that has been published over the last 50 years had had fakes in them.

The problem with political marine visors (be they NSKK, SA, or HJ) is that many fakers took postwar Handelsmarine visors and slapped original insignia on them, taking a $25 cap and instantly making it a $2,000 visor)--a practice that is still continuing to this day....

[Marc verstraete]

Hello Stonemint, NO,NO !! No attack here !!!! It is related to the FJ tread and I extrapolated ... It is just so frustrated to have to deal with a lot of nonsense. ( On other treads !) I posted the above to show why I was of good fait. When a "Expert" of his size uses an item to illustrate his work ( My NSKK cap here) One would expect he knows what he is taking about !
Please, no offence to you !
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