HJ Cap opinions pls

[lakesidetrader]

This landed on my doorstep today. The pin is a HJ members pin quite authentic and rzm marked.
Is the cap period?

[enorepap]

Hallo lst

Normally this logo is combined with the postwar Bamberger Mützen-Industrie (owned by the Landgraf family) caps' plastic sweatshields
See pic n. 18:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...mberger&page=2

The only time I have seen a similar logo (only Landgraf + four spires) is this:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...8&postcount=63

To determine whether it is actually a pre-war specimen we should see the whole polizei cap of Ernst-H.

With regards to the HJ cap: a rubber-trimmed peak; nothing RZM tag and buckle.

Otherwise a very rare and unusual case of a civilian cap, but then we will never have a definitive proof.

[stonemint]

This thread should be of some help:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=255755

[lakesidetrader]

Many thanks for your very complete answer.
Back it goes!