Help with Black Panzer M43

[airborne_steve]

Hello fellow members,

I'm interested in a Panzer M43 hat on estand and I would like your feed back on it. I personally like it but I find the lack of RBN strange along with the lining but I'm not an expert. The link to the hat is

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=829109

Any assistance welcome

Best regards, Steve

[Glenn McInnes]

Not original..IMO










Glenn

[billbert]

Ditto
Billbert

[airborne_steve]

Thanks guys, I thought it might have been too good to be true?


Other comments welcome? Steve

[biohazard69]

Not original..IMO










Glenn

With all respect ,why not?
I have it in my hands and cant see nothing wrong..
For

[Glenn McInnes]

With all respect ,why not?
I have it in my hands and cant see nothing wrong..
For

Because it is not what I expect to see in an original Panzer M43 hat.

If I thought it was original I would have thrown the money at you so fast that your head would spin,especially at that "sucker price".

But it is not up to me to decide what collectors want to own..That is their own business.






Glenn

[biohazard69]

Recently I noticed sucha trend that the ideal feldmutzes are Super copies of which are increasingly present on the market,
Which are better than textbook caps.
It means always silk lining,always panzer T-insignia and marginalized caps that do not look so
we forget that produces war were different
On photos below I want to show accepted good cap and my ,I cant see and differences..
My hat comes from a 100% good source, there is no room for any combinations
I know I have no chance to defend my cap, but it is incorrect that no arguments destroyed the good items
passing reproductions
Proposes ten times to think before you say no.
This time, I do not agree with your views
tO Glenn if you still sure is bad please remove from e-stand

[GAMS1]

IMO not sure it's a repro and an hand inspection would be the best as pictures
of black caps are sometimes not giving the best chances ...!
I see good signs on it despite the facts for example there's almost no markings ?
Nick

[richthofen_117]

IMO the trapezoid insignia is original, but I don't know if it originally applied to the cap. The material of lining is not artificial silk we often seen, I would be more careful.

[billbert]

I ALSO would have BOUGHT it IF it were period...Billbert

[biohazard69]

Your right to think so, but still no arguments
"no way" could write my sixteen year old son but not
subject matter expert..

[B. N. Singer]

...I have it in my hands and cant see nothing wrong..
For

Perhaps not; but all one can really do is to give their opinion (especially from looking at pictures).

I too would entertain doubts about the hat; what I do KNOW is that I would not own it.

B. N. Singer

[Glenn McInnes]

Your right to think so, but still no arguments
"no way" could write my sixteen year old son but not
subject matter expert..

I would think the fact that it has not sold yet since you posted it for sale yesterday morning speaks volumes.








Glenn

[biohazard69]

I would think the fact that it has not sold yet since you posted it for sale yesterday morning speaks volumes.








Glenn

Glenn,
There is nothing strange in this, there is no cash in the market, all items sold in installments, I know that the price is suspicious, but I have no chance to sell it for more
I bought it for two packs of cigarettes, and set to really sell
I know how much cap is worth of 2-4k euros
I do not have to earn enough at this
Sorry if someone spoils the market ..
with all respect
If the only reason you wrote that the cap is not original (it is not yet sold) then this is sad and unfair for me
People do not have money
You are here authority and other users without analyzing the subject say:
Glenn says that it is bad, it certainly is ..

I wish to all a good day

[Glenn McInnes]

Glenn,
There is nothing strange in this, there is no cash in the market, all items sold in installments, I know that the price is suspicious, but I have no chance to sell it for more
I bought it for two packs of cigarettes, and set to really sell
I know how much cap is worth of 2-4k euros
I do not have to earn enough at this
Sorry if someone spoils the market ..
with all respect
If the only reason you wrote that the cap is not original (it is not yet sold) then this is sad and unfair for me
People do not have money
You are here authority and other users without analyzing the subject say:
Glenn says that it is bad, it certainly is ..

I wish to all a good day

I would not use the E Stand to judge what sells and what does not sell...All I see on there for the most part is common items which everyone already owns,or beat up over priced items (and many tunics and hats with insignia sewing issues) and fakes for cheap prices.At times it reminds me of E Bay.


However,good items do sell on there but they are deleted right away when marked sold,so I am sure many don't see them.(I do)


Glenn