Heer overseas side cap opinion

[GAMS1]

Exactly ! With or without ,its not a "must have" !
Nick

[derka]

Thank for your comment Nick.
Almost all original standart issue sidecaps i observed have this stiching line inside the liner; its lack is seldomly seen.
derka

[keifer kahn]

Could of been reworked.Skirt was damaged and reduced in size perhaps.Repaired and resewn.

The edge is handstitched as well.

[derka]

Could of been reworked.Skirt was damaged and reduced in size perhaps.Repaired and resewn.

The edge is handstitched as well.

Interesting hypothesis Kiefer.

The lining is imo the one initialy applied in the sidecap, because it looks firmy taken in "sandwich" by grommets washers, so i don't think this lining could have been changed.
If this sidecap was reworked, original seewn evidence with holes would be still visible on this lining, but it is not the case.
Last, i'm not sure its edge is handstiched, but better pics would clarify this point, as for grommets inside.

derka

[keifer kahn]

Actually i would of said the original liner would be left in place.Just the bottom edge of outer skirt and inner liner trimmed.

Ive seen a few where the bottom of the skirt had been damaged on the bottom edge and material trimmed off.Repaired edge folded over and re-hemmed.

If enough was trimmed off, all evidence of previous stitch holes would dissapear.

Perhaps a comparable measurement of the skirt height on a comparable size cap
would help, to see how much has been removed.(If this is the case)

[derka]

Kiefer, i understand your point.
About previous stiched holes, i was mainly thinking about the ones on the red line i drawn, more than the ones of stiching at the edge of the lining.
derka

[keifer kahn]

I actually think that hand stitched edge is along the line of original stitching that you are referring to.

You imagine trimming the edge of skirt and liner, folding it under on both edges,to give it some hemming material.That would effectively reduce the skirt and liner height.Consequently bringing that missing line of stitching down to the edge of the skirt and liner.Then hand stitched along it.

[derka]

I see this modification acording your description, but then wouldn't it imply to modify the lower side of the flap too, to reduce its initial hight ?
The edge of this lower side of the flap looks untouched, with its machine stiching line, althought the thread used looks to have a different color than the one of the double upper stiching lines of the flap.
derka

[keifer kahn]

It depends if the repair was done by different repairers.

The skirt may of been removed, repaired and resewn to the body of the cap by one repairer and then handed on to the next repairer who reattached the liner by hand.This liner attachement would hide the 1st repairers line of machine stitching from the rear(inside) but leave it obviously visible from the outside of the cap.

The thread colour difference in comparison to the other machine stitching would reflect a repair as well.

So many variables and we would have to know the caps history to put our fingers on it.