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    Wh M43 hbt cap on estand

    Hi guys,there is something that can be in my interest on estand,it's a M43 hbt cap.....
    I have heard these are not legit for WW2,but what are your thoughts on this one ?
    Thanks for your time and opinion ..
    Here is the link :

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=750455

    Martin
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    #2
    Originally posted by martin guerre View Post
    ...I have heard these are not legit for WW2,but what are your thoughts on this one ?
    Although convincing in appearance I would remain circumspect.

    B. N. Singer

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      #3
      I believe hats in this material were manufactured for issue to RAD troops.

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        Originally posted by CWP View Post
        I believe hats in this material were manufactured for issue to RAD troops.
        That's all I ever come across in my knowledge, but always learning new discoveries is welcome, who knows.

        I like the stitching to the Heer insignia, and the hat is appealing though. What's up with the stamp & RBn # though, RAD organization, any clue?


        -Ray-
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          #5
          Hi Guys,

          saw this cap on estand too and I must say it is an appealing cap. Would also be very interested to know if this is a genuine WWII Heer cap.

          Cheers, W

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            #6
            I like this cap,I like the stitching,I like the lining,I like the stamps and I like a few other features but in my opinion the rectangular stamping reads something like "RAD........".
            It may be a genuine Heer HBT M43 with RAD stampings.Me,I wouldn't buy it for that money but I've got this feeling that it's good!
            Best Regards

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              #7
              The stamp absolutely reads RADBA... for RAD Bekleidungsamt. That this is a RAD cap is, for me, beyond question, and with that depot stamp, I feel certain it left the factory with RAD insignia.

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                #8
                OK but could you explain how the insignias were sewn ?
                cap was never « opened »

                So how could it be possible to change the RAD insignias

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                  #9
                  If the insignia is suspected to be changed , I would think an inspection of the lining would be needed. Since the insignia is machine sewn and I would think the lining would have needed to be partially removed. Just a thought.

                  Wouldn't that late in the game, some Rad field units be wearing generic military items?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by LOTHRINGEN View Post
                    OK but could you explain how the insignias were sewn ?
                    cap was never « opened »

                    So how could it be possible to change the RAD insignias
                    My thinking along those lines also .
                    you beat me to the punch. Didn't see your post.

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                      #11
                      Dennis,

                      no problem to echo my thought ... i feel less alone now smile wink

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                        #12
                        This hat is in no way a generic military item. It is a RAD-specific pattern of headgear, just as much as the "Robin Hood" cap, etc. This example has a RAD depot stamp which is typical for a RAD contracted and issued garment.

                        Is there any logical explanation for how or why a RAD cap could have left the factory and been accepted at a RAD depot, with Heer-specific insignia?

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                          Also: there's a lot of sewing around the bottom edge of that cap. The color of the thread used there looks similar but not identical to the thread used elsewhere on the hat?

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                            #14
                            2 kind of threads is not a red flag ... Especialy around the bottom edge !!!
                            It is more someting that i like to see

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                              #15
                              RAD depot stamps in Heer, especially GJ, uniforms has been seen quite often. I have a M40 GJ tunic with a RAD Salzburg acceptance stamp. Could be the same for some headgear.

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