US vets salty TR headgear bringbacks

[Oceansider]

A got a call from a guy who was cleaning out his deceased grandparent's house and found two trunks he'd never seen. They turned out to be his grandfather's WWII US 8th Infantry Division and TR caps, large banner, armband, sport shirt emblems, K98 bayonet and a couple more items.

His uniform and the caps have all been feasted on by insects for the last 70 years or so and the caps are crunch with damaged or missing visors.

I don't know what most of the caps are, except for the one I've labled "A," and on that one I'm not sure how to translate the unit info that seems to be writting inside the cap.

Any help on ID's would be very much appreciated.

[Oceansider]

This one apparently needs a visor

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This has a leather chinstrap:

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There are two caps with this same color and trim:

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Here's what the caps came with:

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[NickG]

A = Wehrmacht Infantry officer
B = NSKOV wounded veterans org or DAF based on Cogwheel sweatshield
with NSKOV eagle added...(essentially same cap for both organisations)
C = Luftwaffe signals enlisted/NCO
D = visor: rural Polizei (possibly postwar?)
E = mountain cap: rural Polizei (possibly postwar?)
(D and E both appear to have a West German green color....but if war time bring backs ,perhaps Justice/Penal related)

[Oceansider]

A = Wehrmacht Infantry officer
B = NSKOV wounded veterans org or DAF based on Cogwheel sweatshield
with NSKOV eagle added...(essentially same cap for both organisations)
C = Luftwaffe signals enlisted/NCO
D = visor: rural Polizei (possibly postwar?)
E = mountain cap: rural Polizei (possibly postwar?)

Thanks Nick: now all I have to do is find some who needs some caps for spare parts use.

I'm pretty sure he went home not long after the war ended so if those gendarmerie caps were post-war they'd have to be no later than early 1946.

[kersten]

A fascinating find and thanks for sharing - of course it's a shame the cases were not crammed with SS caps but it's amazing to find these items and they are very interesting as clearly it's a real genuine find, how many more such finds from ww2 vets r left? Very very few I would think

[Mainemilitaria]

Looks like most of these are not beyond "saving" or reasonable "restoration".... hard to say with out knowing exactly, but I'd say all have a good chance of being pre-45 from the look.

The DAF Visor with the NSKOV eagle is somewhat correct as the hat "body" was the same...just the "band" was changed (usually NSKOV used the RKB type hat band with Kyffhauser Monuments/etc.- this one just has the oakleaves which would normally be the "DAF" version. You might find a visor.

The Polizei visor (so called) looks earlier to me, not "later" (postwar).... the Polizei Mt. style cap also could (and looks) potentially pre-war.

Looks like you've corner the "Army T-Shirt insignia" market! Looks like a "fun" lot....keep you busy for awhile!
John G.

Looking at the photos again ....noticed the Army officers hat has incorrect visor.... that's probably the visor off the NSKOV/DAF hat..... ARMY Visors are obtainable with alittle effort.... so these all can be repaired if you so desired.

[Oceansider]

Thanks for those insights.

Looks like most of these are not beyond "saving" or reasonable "restoration".... hard to say with out knowing exactly, but I'd say all have a good chance of being pre-45 from the look.

The DAF Visor with the NSKOV eagle is somewhat correct as the hat "body" was the same...just the "band" was changed (usually NSKOV used the RKB type hat band with Kyffhauser Monuments/etc.- this one just has the oakleaves which would normally be the "DAF" version. You might find a visor.

The Polizei visor (so called) looks earlier to me, not "later" (postwar).... the Polizei Mt. style cap also could (and looks) potentially pre-war.

Looks like you've corner the "Army T-Shirt insignia" market! Looks like a "fun" lot....keep you busy for awhile!
John G.

Looking at the photos again ....noticed the Army officers hat has incorrect visor.... that's probably the visor off the NSKOV/DAF hat..... ARMY Visors are obtainable with alittle effort.... so these all can be repaired if you so desired.

[Oceansider]

Here's some closeups of the other things in the trunk. The double-sided banner is almost 11 feet long. The armband has a couple of moth holes. There are a dozen of the sport shirt emblems. The K98 bayonet is a 1938 Horster. There was a photo of a Marine in the documents that came with this: he must have been a family member who brought home the short Japanese blade (minus its grip).

[Oceansider]

There was this one piece loose with the caps:



Does anyone know what this unit info says?

[Alfred.R]

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Does anyone know what this unit info says?

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infanteri ersatz abteilung 92

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...enter/IR92.htm
nice find

[afrikasandman]

I would say all of these caps are savable. The visors can be resewn and I sent you the info of the guy I would have do it. That said, nice score! Matt