General SS visor cap

[Favos]

Hello guys,

Could I have your opinion about this cap please?
It's size 56, and the eagle is marked RZM M1/72.
Thanks!

[Favos]

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[Favos]

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[SgtB]

The badges are bad for sure, and there are a couple of red flags that tell me the cap itself is bad too.

[COLLECT36]

SS generals visor

A lining of oil type material in a very high rank and rare hat,their are a few red flags,but that's a pretty bad piece!! CDR

[BenVK]

Some sort of Alteste based Frankenstein creation I would say.

[revi]

Ben, you mean the golden SS Logo / inner top etc. being Alteste ?

[drbill]

lining

this hat exhibits traditional em/nco type lining in a general officer's visor- me thinks NOT!!

[BenVK]

Ben, you mean the golden SS Logo / inner top etc. being Alteste ?

Not exactly, I mean the exterior looks Alteste but the wasserdicht lining with the runes may be genuine.

As drbill said though, they don't belong together.

[revi]

O.k., thanks Ben. The EM/NCO inner and visor outer side not belonging together for a generals visor is without question. I find the SS logo and upper waterproof material itself having a very good chance, but I had some trouble designating the sidepanel material as it l somehow looks "thickisch" and of a strange weave for a Allg. enlisted, more the material I'm used to see in civil visors such as Firedepartment etc., that's why I asked you about the Alteste. Could also be the picture though. Looks o.k. in the second picture of #2. Cheers.

[BenVK]

Don't recall seeing an Alteste with a waterproof lining and runes.

Seen a few with the artificial silk lining like this one though.
It was amongst other very dubious hats in an auction last November in Hatfield, PA, USA.

[revi]

Never seen those pictures before ! Thanks.

[viva_giulio]

i also suspect in a frankestein. moreover i'm more and more sceptical when i see this kind of sweatband... in the last years a large numbero of fake or frankestein shows this sweatband.
also recent "crusher" of Besslein have always this kind of sb.

[stonemint]

Don't recall seeing an Alteste with a waterproof lining and runes.

Seen a few with the artificial silk lining like this one though.
It was amongst other very dubious hats in an auction last November in Hatfield, PA, USA.

It is amazing how many high-end fakes are now being dumped through obscure US auction houses (however, they are a great source of reference material.)
Even more amazing to see that there are still so many uniformed people bidding on this crap.....

[SgtB]

Neither of the caps posted are Altestes IMO but both are bad!