Early Black HJ Cap??

[clestuff]

I believe this cap is period. Its black with a buckle in front. Could this be HJ?? Or is it a civilian hat?? I dont know if the 1930 on the tag is the date or just a code number. Did HJ caps have a buckle like this in front??

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The size is the only marking I can find.

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Anybody have a clue??

[Lenny W]

Civilian cap not military related imo

[Kurt Meyer]

I think this would help a bit ( Buckle is in mirror) :

[Obergruppen2]

I also think this is a civilian hat ,very nice period hat but still civilian

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I think this would help a bit ( Buckle is in mirror) :

Thank for the photo Ben but isnt that an HJ pin on him?

[Kurt Meyer]

My name is Michael

And yes it's a HJ pin!

[Richard P]

I think this would help a bit ( Buckle is in mirror) :

Looks like a nice wrap...I mean ski jacket, that the guy is wearing. great photo!

Richard