Air Sea Rescue (Seenotdienst) Visor

[John R.]

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[John R.]

As described in the references, there was a wide range of visor types including the two above.

If anybody has more information on the Seenotdienst or images of visors or the visors in use, that would be great to post here.

I found one thread here:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...t=seenotdienst

and another off WAF:

http://militaryheadgear.com/types/85/items/5484

John

[John R.]

And Paul S.'s beautiful air sea rescue cap as posted in an earlier thread.

John

[Gene]

John,

I can't say I like any aspect of this cap; are you sure it's original? If needed or warranted, could you get a refund?

Gene

[John R.]

I am sure I can, but why do you think it has a problem? I have it in hand of course and it looks OK but there is not a big database of these out there. I know they have been faked, but not sure I see the problem right now.

Your post appreciated.

John

[John R.]

One point made was lack of symmetry in the emblem, however, I have measured the dimensions on both sides and they are the same. I think part of the problem was the first images I posted were at a slight angle.

As far as the wear goes, looks normal to me and not contrived, but I welcome all comments on this example.

Here are some other shots. John

[Kurt]

John,

my guess is that Gene is especially refering to the PEKÜRO marked sweatband. This marking was used by the company post-war. It would certainly help if you could say what it says under the Stirndruckfrei making. If it says DBP (Deutsches Bundespatent) rather than DRP (Deutsches Reichspatent) that would be the kiss of death...

Kurt

[John R.]

cockade

[John R.]

Visor bill.

[stonemint]

John's is fine--it is the one in frame 16 (the Pekuro) that I don't like--that is a postwar Pekuro logo.

[John R.]

Thanks Chris. I think I made things confusing, not sure how. Frames 13, 14, 15 and 16 all were in Craig Gottleib's archive. This is not my visor and I am not sure it belonged to Craig either.

If that is a fake, then it is important to this thread to be identified as such.

My visor is Frames 2-6.

John

[ROBB]

Super cap , I have never seen one before . Rob

[Kurt]

John's is fine--it is the one in frame 16 (the Pekuro) that I don't like--that is a postwar Pekuro logo.

Now I get it... and I was only looking at that shot in frame 16 and thought it was yours John. Congrats, the first one is much nicer

Kurt

[Erich B.]

The letters are D.R.P. I don't collect these sort of caps, but I've seen caps with this style logo with side linings and without the side linings that were pre-45 vintage--I believe civilian/paramilitary organizations like this. After the war, the DRP should have changed to DBP, since DRP would mean nothing after the Reich ceased to exist.
Erich

[stonemint]

The letters are D.R.P. I don't collect these sort of caps, but I've seen caps with this style logo with side linings and without the side linings that were pre-45 vintage--I believe civilian/paramilitary organizations like this. After the war, the DRP should have changed to DBP, since DRP would mean nothing after the Reich ceased to exist.
Erich

Actually, Pekuro was one of the very few who continued to use "DRP" up until the BRD was formed in 1950. As West Germany was still subject to Allied control from 45-49, there was no government to recognize patents, so to protect themselves, they continued to use the Patent that was granted by the last governenment body that granted their patent, which was the Reich Patentamt. You will see it on many civilian caps of the period--police, railway, feuerwehr, etc. #16 is simply a postwar water-related cap with added bogus insignia.