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    #31
    Just as likely - The cap needs repair & Heinrich just happens to be nearby the Pekuro facilities, walks in & says - "fix it". A glass of wine or two later, waiting in the Director's office & the cap is handed back to Heer General.

    A closer view of the technique of attachment might give some indication of the level of professionalism in its application but I wouldn't jump right on a "post war" fix unless there's other signs that point to that. Just because I drive a Caddy doesn't mean I couldn't get my needs serviced at a Ford dealer in a pinch.

    Just my 2 cents,

    Rick C.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Arran View Post
      Lets see a few other Luft white-tops from the same maker to see how their logos are printed. Either way, there are too many things RIGHT with this cap to make me concerned about the printing of the logo in this case...
      This is mine is for NCO ,but I can't imagine CW did better logo and sweatband in a so low level hat instead ina a Genelal one.Just my 2 cents
      Carlo
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        #33
        printed on fabric
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          #34
          classic sweatband and stitchin for this factory in a hig grade hat
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            #35
            OK, I have to agree, this is a text book CW application.

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              #36
              here my CW white top off.visor
              logo printed on the lining

              Hans






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                #37
                Here´s another white LW CW for comparison:

                Jack

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                  #38
                  Ok gents, whats the problem? I've had my head so much up my ass lately with computer virus problems I've forgotten about caps.

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                    #39
                    The last cap posted has a different variety of sweatband than the others, so provided its un-messed with, we at least know this maker used more than one type...

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                      #40
                      HI Arran, here are details of my CW - should be OK...

                      http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=363317

                      Cheers, Jack

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                        #41
                        Okay so far we have three different ways of SB applications. One is Ron's with material in between the cap and the SB, then we have Carlo's and Hans, the 'textboon' SB application and last we have Jack's with the SB applied directly to the cap.

                        So far I llike all three caps, can we conclude that CW had not one but few different ways of SB applications? Robert Lubstain/ Erel did so why not CW who was also a major maker.

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                          #42
                          OK just to explain.
                          CW like other factory (Erel etc) had in his catalogue cheap hat medium and expencive hats,each categogy used different sweatband and way of sewn.The expencieve was mine and the one of heyst ,the one of Jack is cheap,all original period application and classic for Wagner factory.
                          The way (like Pequro way) of Ron's hat is not for CW.The sweatshild printed with the logo on was never used in a CW hats ,if I'm wrong show me an original and inquestionable Clemens Wagner visor with the logo printed on the shield and not on the lining
                          IMO to many concerns in a very rare and expencieve hat.
                          Carlo

                          PS
                          Stonemint ! Nick !
                          WHERE ARE YOU?
                          Why you don't tell your opinion ?

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                            #43
                            Regarding Tony's query/comment "can we conclude that CW had not one but few different ways of SB applications? Robert Lubstain/ Erel did so why not CW who was also a major maker" I would tend to believe that his conclusion has merit.

                            As in any economy, people moved around. Given war time, with bombs falling, having a minor impact (no pun intended) on housing and lifestyle, migration from one city or district to another probably happened more often then, say Massachusetts during the same time frame. Skilled people would move to an area where they might utilize their skill.

                            Would it not be reasonable to assume a worker in a Pekuro operation ‘might’ find work (for whatever reason) in a CW factory? Or, either of these factory employees in the eReL factory? Would these artisans not bring their techniques with them and thus, would there not be a 'little bit' of cross-pollination of manufacturing characteristics evident since these items were hand assembled?

                            Just a thought...

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by solo View Post
                              OK just to explain.
                              CW like other factory (Erel etc) had in his catalogue cheap hat medium and expencive hats,each categogy used different sweatband and way of sewn.The expencieve was mine and the one of heyst ,the one of Jack is cheap,all original period application and classic for Wagner factory.
                              The way (like Pequro way) of Ron's hat is not for CW.The sweatshild printed with the logo on was never used in a CW hats ,if I'm wrong show me an original and inquestionable Clemens Wagner visor with the logo printed on the shield and not on the lining
                              IMO to many concerns in a very rare and expencieve hat.
                              Carlo

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                              Stonemint ! Nick !
                              WHERE ARE YOU?
                              Why you don't tell your opinion ?
                              You could very well be right, Carlo. But if a General walked into his usual tailor looking for a new cap, and said "I really like the cap from this maker, but I've got to have the sweatband with the velvet around cause I hate having a red line on my forehead- can you hook me up?", what would the result be? Obviously, the tailor would put that band in that cap even if it meant doing it himself. I'm sure that sort of thing happened from time to time...

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                                #45
                                Can't help feeling that some of these theories are reaching a bit.

                                Not commenting on the Generals cap In question but rather addressing some of the inconsistencies In SB application on these other caps. Could this not be a similar situation that we find with the LAGO caps. Is It not beyond the realms of likelyhood that when a large contract was received, some of the work was sub contracted to other manufacturers. This would explain differing construction methods In caps from one particular manufacturer would It not.

                                Yours, Guy.

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