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    #16
    Originally posted by derek View Post
    A lovely example and, if you don't mind me saying so, it demonstrates that collectors shouldn't be too paranoid about stitching showing below the lower piping on a genuine cap.
    Derek

    Derek, truer words were never spoken--it is not uncommon to see visible stitching above and/or below the piping on Civil and Political caps. It really only becomes a red-flag on the Waffen-SS and Wehrmacht visors, but even then there are original untouched examples with exposed piping.
    NEC SOLI CEDIT

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      #17
      Originally posted by NTZ View Post
      Carlo, that is the best Orts I have ever seen!
      I don't believe it--NTZ showing appreciation for a Political cap?
      NEC SOLI CEDIT

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        #18
        Originally posted by stonemint View Post
        I don't believe it--NTZ showing appreciation for a Political cap?
        The damn thing almost gave me a woody.

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          #19
          Originally posted by stonemint View Post
          Derek, truer words were never spoken--it is not uncommon to see visible stitching above and/or below the piping on Civil and Political caps. It really only becomes a red-flag on the Waffen-SS and Wehrmacht visors, but even then there are original untouched examples with exposed piping.
          Am I missing something here? The reason the stiching is visible is becaouse of the ribbed material that the hat is made of. Waffen-SS and Wehrmancht visors are usually made of wool, into which the thread becomes buried and not readily visible. And I have seen stiching above or below the lower piping on these hats as well. Geeze guys, these hats were all made the same way. There was no magic thread used to make the SS and Wehrmacht ones...

          BTW, this is a georgeous visor...

          Tom
          Last edited by tgn; 12-03-2008, 11:55 AM.

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            #20
            Ciao Carlo

            You had a good hunting party...what a wonderful visor

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              #21
              hat

              I thought hate threads wouldn't be tolerated here!

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                #22
                [quote=tgn;2965826]Am I missing something here? The reason the stiching is visible is becaouse of the ribbed material that the hat is made of. Waffen-SS and Wehrmancht visors are usually made of wool, into which the thread becomes buried and not readily visible. And I have seen stiching above or below the lower piping on these hats as well. Geeze guys, these hats were all made the same way. There was no magic thread used to make the SS and Wehrmacht ones...



                Actually, the material used on most political visors is a tightly woven wool--the weave is a gabardine (one sees Trikot on these, but less often on these Form 3's). There are plenty of Political Gabardine visors where the stitching does not show as well. The point Derek and I are making is that exposed stitching on a Wehrmacht/SS visor can be a red-flag for a re-built Franky, due to a re-stitched lining/band. And yes, there are original Wehrmacht visors with exposed stitching.
                NEC SOLI CEDIT

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by NTZ View Post
                  The damn thing almost gave me a woody.

                  LOL--sounds like you are starting to get over your life-long case of "Wehrmachtitis"....
                  NEC SOLI CEDIT

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                    #24
                    Hi,for my experience I sow few original WH hats with exposed stitching in the lower band no WSS but many NSDAP or civil.IMO is not for the fabric but for the type of sweatband.This swatband is fixed very low in the hat so you can see the sewn under the piping.Look to all the politicalhat ,half have this stitchin.
                    Carlo

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by NTZ View Post
                      Carlo, that is the best Orts I have ever seen!
                      Originally posted by stonemint View Post
                      I don't believe it--NTZ showing appreciation for a Political cap?


                      Yes Stone ,incredible NTZ replys on a political hat
                      Probaply he is out of head
                      Cheers to both
                      Carlo

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by stonemint View Post
                        Actually, the material used on most political visors is a tightly woven wool--the weave is a gabardine (one sees Trikot on these, but less often on these Form 3's). There are plenty of Political Gabardine visors where the stitching does not show as well. The point Derek and I are making is that exposed stitching on a Wehrmacht/SS visor can be a red-flag for a re-built Franky, due to a re-stitched lining/band. And yes, there are original Wehrmacht visors with exposed stitching.
                        OK, that makes sense now.

                        Tom

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by solo View Post
                          Hi,for my experience I sow few original WH hats with exposed stitching in the lower band no WSS but many NSDAP or civil.IMO is not for the fabric but for the type of sweatband.This swatband is fixed very low in the hat so you can see the sewn under the piping.Look to all the politicalhat ,half have this stitchin.
                          Carlo
                          That makes no sense. The sweatbands were not intentially placed lower on political hats. Whether of not the thread is exposed has to do with the care taken in making the hat.

                          Tom

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by tgn View Post
                            That makes no sense. The sweatbands were not intentially placed lower on political hats. Whether of not the thread is exposed has to do with the care taken in making the hat.

                            Tom
                            Sorry the problem is my bad english,I'm not able to explain,but the most important thing is the kind of sweatband.
                            Carlo

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