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    #16
    Well I certainly don't know anything about Dutch-made visors, but I find this cap visually appealing. The fabric is not at all like any Janke neo-trikot that I'm familiar with, and the bullion badges look good to me as well. The rest is uncharted territory for me, but I don't see why it couldn't be right. Marc says it's all hunky-dory and it should be fairly easy for whoever buys it to check it out, good or bad.

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      #17
      Isn't that eagle a known fake???

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        #18
        The wreath looks very good...notice the two sprigs extending further at the bottom, and the absence of the usual two inner ones that sit either side of the cockade
        Eagle appears to have oxcidised on upper wings.

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          #19
          a few things are anoying me in this topic to tell you the truth ( I see this a lot lately )
          Instead of stick to the facts people start screeming things like :
          "I'm not an expert"
          "I wouldn't buy it"
          "I won't be buying one"

          Why not stick to the factsm
          Its no good because, this and this and this IS not good !
          No one had even the guts to ask for close ups of this hat here.
          This topic isn't started to discus whether or whether you not going to buy this cap, i'm not even interested.
          Visors where made by lots of companie's. the taylor made pieces. In fact, this fabric does seem to have more from the dutch pre 1940 tunics, this could be the reason why some of you guys wont give it a penny.

          I should realy appreciate if some one could give us some hard evedince of this cap being not good. As long as "we" dont have fact this is still a very good cap

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            #20
            HI
            I am with you on this,.,,it's really starting to annoy me to , no facts, but a lot of "not for me" , bad etc,,, it has turned a lot of nice things into fakes over night.

            //Jacob
            Last edited by Jacob Andreasen; 03-27-2008, 02:41 AM.

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              #21
              Originally posted by sturmbannfuhrer View Post
              We all learn mate. It's good to know that you didn't spend a fortune on it. I wouldn't bother with this one, there are far, far more nicer Infantry visors on the market that are much better than this thing and don't have open issues that bring about this type of discussion.

              all the best JT
              I don't think it's question of finding a better "thing" !!!
              That's not what this thread is about.
              It's about the originality!

              I try to post some close ups of the visor later today.
              by the way... can anyone show me a janke visor that looks like this one?
              "Isn't that eagle a known fake??? " or at least a known fake?
              THAT would help this discussion.

              Like some members already said :
              I'm no an expert, I wouldn't buy it....that's easy comment to give I guess!
              And believe me: I've seen some comment the last few years: It looks to new, so it can't be good etc.. etc...

              And like Jacob said : no facts, but a lot of "not for me" , bad etc,,, it has turned a lot of nice things into fakes over night.
              That's the difference with ebay, BAD stuff can't be discussed on ebay, good stuff on the WAF can...but...

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                #22
                I thought it had good curb appeal.. But what the h_ll do I know??Billbert

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jacob Andreasen View Post
                  HI
                  I am with you on this,.,,it's really starting to annoy me to , no facts, but a lot of "not for me" , bad etc,,, it has turned a lot of nice things into fakes over night.

                  //Jacob
                  here here !

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                    #24
                    See post #15. Let's get some shots with the sweat band up to see how the lining is attached for starters. I think we'll get some "facts" from that one way or the other. This is not a "one looker" by any means.

                    Don

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                      #25
                      that could be right Don, I agree on this one !

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                        #26
                        'I'm no expert...' which is true, but i can read.

                        Pinned in the 'Cloth Headgear' forum is a post titled 'Janke characteristics' by Stonemint.

                        Which in this post Stonemint says:

                        'With Jankes, the black ring in the cockade is made out of black thread in lieu of black-painted bullion.'

                        From what i can see the hat in question has a black ring in the cockade made of black thread.

                        Stonemint also states:

                        'In any event, just by the exterior alone, always look for the cockade which uses black cotton thread for the most obvius "red flag." (I myself in almost 30 years of collecting have yet to see an original all-bullion cockade with thread in lieu of bullion).'

                        So going by the pinned post by Stonemint. The cockade is a Janke. This of course doesnt mean the rest is a fake.

                        Maybe closer photos of the cockade could also be posted?

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by LDR View Post
                            'I'm no expert...' which is true, but i can read.

                            Pinned in the 'Cloth Headgear' forum is a post titled 'Janke characteristics' by Stonemint.

                            Which in this post Stonemint says:

                            'With Jankes, the black ring in the cockade is made out of black thread in lieu of black-painted bullion.'

                            From what i can see the hat in question has a black ring in the cockade made of black thread.

                            Stonemint also states:

                            'In any event, just by the exterior alone, always look for the cockade which uses black cotton thread for the most obvius "red flag." (I myself in almost 30 years of collecting have yet to see an original all-bullion cockade with thread in lieu of bullion).'

                            So going by the pinned post by Stonemint. The cockade is a Janke. This of course doesnt mean the rest is a fake.

                            Maybe closer photos of the cockade could also be posted?
                            Cockades where the black ring are made of black thread are also seen on 100% original caps, that doesnt make it a fake... but still, a nice close up would be nice.

                            //Jacob
                            Last edited by Jacob Andreasen; 03-27-2008, 11:30 AM.

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                              #29
                              where is Dave Kane on this one ?
                              He was the one that thougt to discuss this one... I would have expected him to be one of the posters in this topic

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                                #30
                                The leather sweatband has been stiched to a small piece of black cloth.
                                The black cloth has been attached to the cap.

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