"Reichsleiter" Visor

[stonemint]

Gents--

This visor is/was on Ebay last week--it is for the rarest of all PL ranks, the Reichsleiter, who exclusively used gold basket-weave piping (Goebbels, Hess, Schwartz, Bormann et al would wear this style.)

I believe this fake is by the same faker as the Hitler Youth Leaders visor. Its pretty good, but not without its "tells":

[stonemint]

The insignia is pretty good, but instead of a fire-gilded appearance, it is more yellow:

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Note that this one, like the others by this faker, uses a brushed cotton/wool instead of actual velvet:

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THis one isn't as oval shaped as others I have seen, nor does it seem to be as over-padded (which usually leads to the peak sagging forward):

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Another trait of these fakes--the unevenness of the piping, and instead of being butted or overlapped, it is of the "snake eating its tail" variety:

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Sweatband:

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Visor underside close-up--it almost looks paper-mache':

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The money shot--just like that HJ leaders, I would not expect a maker label on a form 4 visor, and certainly not on a Reichsleiter visor. Even if GAH did make one, I would expect them to use their Berolina logo at this stage:

[stonemint]

Close-up of repro GAH logo:

[jarkis88]

You got that right

[Pascal Bernhard]

You got that right

Velvet band is wrong, lining, sweat band, to much components are "odd" on this cap.

[CLENTER]

Ref:fake Visor

WHO WAS THE SELLER SELLING THIS FAKE? WAS HIS E-BAY NAME INDIAN RIDER? HE JUST SOLD A FAKE GAU VISOR ON E-BAY EVEN AFTER I WROTE HIM AND TOLD HIM IT WAS FAKE, BUT HE ALREADY NEW THAT IT WAS. DIDN'T CARE,WHAT A RIP OFF! YOU ALL REMEMBER HIS NAME "INDIAN RIDER" FOR FUTURE REFERENCE TO STAY AWAY FROM.

[J C Gray]

Visor underside close-up--it almost looks paper-mache':

A classic example of abrasion caused by sandpaper.

[DonC]

JC beat me to it - both the sweatband and the maker's logo have been "roughed up" with fine grit sandpapaer. I don't think the staus conscious inner circle of the TR would be caught dead without a velvet band, either...

Don

[NTZ]

The beauty of 95% of the fakes out there is they can never duplicate the weave and texture of a period lining. The materials used on these fakes always come short and IMO are easy to identify.