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    #16
    Relax Guy, I haven't done anything to the cap and I won't either now.

    You're right, this cap is beyond my experience until now which is why I posted it because I find it interesting. Sorry to bore you because you've seen so many already, but it was a good job I did though wasn't it? because the new owner didn't know what it is. And he didn't know that the wool band shouldn't be touched either.

    So,why didn't you tell him what you're telling me now when he bought the thing from you? Where's does the resbonsibility lay now? He was the one who approached me to replace the band, not the other way round. I don't decide that these things need repairing, the owners do. He might easily have had a go himself or sent it to someone else and that would tough luck now.

    One last question, do you have any idea how s hit it feels to be kicked in the teeth when you're just trying to help people?

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      #17
      To answer your last question first, yes I do, repeatedly! Which is perhaps why I sometimes seem a little short tempered!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>
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      I DID tell the new owner exactly what I have stated here but he chose to ignore It. <o></o>
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      Heres another example!<o></o>
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      I sold a wonderful tropical BD to someone a couple of years ago. The insignia had been on and off in period (very common for tropical BD) and was not sewn nicely. The muppet then took It to one renowned dealer and asked him If he could have the insignia re-sewn. The dealer (who specialises in SS) to his credit was a little worried and approached me for advice knowing I had sold the piece. I told him why the insignia was originally mounted and why It should be left alone. These were all things I had told the purchaser. When the dealer re-iterated my stance the Idiot customer said he was going to have It done anyway as It didn't look very attractive. SO Ben, yes I do know what It feels like.<o></o>
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      Sorry If In my post I came across as Contrite and I'll humoured It's just that I love this cap and the thought Of It being Butchered made me angry. You and I have teh advantage here remember actually having handled the thing. As I said In my previous thread, If one assumes the Mantel of restorer one has to know when not to touch. It seems from your response that you already made that decision so my appollogies If I underestimated you.

      Boomshanka, Guy<o></o>

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        #18
        No need to apologise Guy, I understand completely now. I too would hate to see this or any other cap being messed with unnecassarily.

        I've learnt a few valuable lessons here today.

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          #19
          Hello,
          I happen to be the owner of this cap, now lets get one thing sraight, i bought this for £350 from a dealer at beltring this year and the only fleeting comment i got was that the peak had been replaced nothing more, period. What a stupid comment in your post, if i new he was going to mess with it i wouldn't have sold it to him????.
          I admit i sent the cap to Ben in order to have him replace the sweatband which he said he would do, but as you can gather he didn't , purely because i asked him to send it back so i could use it as a display piece on my stand at fairs. Im big enough to take on board your comments and appreciate that it needs to be left alone which it will be. What i can't get over is the way this guy i bought the cap from tells his side of of the story which by the way is bull, and Ben i'm shocked.

          So lets leave it at that. I think alot of comments on this forum and others like it are unjust and sniping remarks are for the weak and petty minded.

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            #20
            Peace brothers everything is cool

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              #21
              Nothing has been changed on this very interesting cap which I like very much so everybody should be happy now. Agreed?

              However, this was not an enjoyable experience for me at all so I'm withdrawing my offer to restore anymore caps in the near future, except for good friends.

              Sorry to all but it's just not worth it anymore.

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                #22
                I would say that the response by the owners of the cap to Ben was uncalled for. I think it is always wise to think before one speak or type as in this case. Jacques

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                  #23
                  Nice looking cap - I saw a very similar example at the Detling show a couple of years ago, can't remember the maker though......

                  Steve.

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                    #24
                    Guy, see what you have done. Who is now going to fix my caps now, you? Jacques

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                      #25
                      Don't worry Jacques, I'm sure you can bribe me.

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                        #26
                        William, PLEASE!

                        When Sander brought you to my stall to see this cap I told you everything I have mentioned here! I know what this cap Is so why would I tell you the visor had been replaced when this is obviously not the case. I told you the sweat band had been added and this was why the visor was re sewn the way it was.

                        I don't want to argue with you and I think this cap speaks for it's self. I am happy to buy It back but not to see It messed with for no reason. Again as I said to Ben, If I offended you I am sorry but I think this cap should be left as Is.

                        As far as Ben's restoration work go's I honestly believe he is one of the best so he shouldn't let my remarks or anyone elses phase him.

                        If I caused offence here I appologise but I am sure that you all understand why I reacted the way I did.

                        Yours, Guy

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Lasse Kongo View Post
                          Ben,

                          Almost all original KM Visorcaps as well as Donal Duck caps have eather transparent or black celluid pastebord. That because to withstand the water at see better then paper.

                          So it is acctually not that extraordinar. May have been used as a shortage of paper or maybee a batch for a rainy climate:-)

                          Lasse
                          I agree! My Kriegsmarine Donald Duck cap has the same (transparent) material, rare for Heer, but not unusual for period KM pieces! Nick

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                            #28
                            Nick, could you post a pic? I'd like to see.

                            Got to get up to speed on KM caps, I'm missing out obviously. I'm just not that keen on the shape of them, anyone else feel the same?

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                              #29
                              Ben...the shape of KM caps is what I like most about them. Greetings from La Rochelle!
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Lasse Kongo View Post
                                Ben,

                                Almost all original KM Visorcaps as well as Donal Duck caps have eather transparent or black celluid pastebord. That because to withstand the water at see better then paper.

                                So it is acctually not that extraordinar. May have been used as a shortage of paper or maybee a batch for a rainy climate:-)

                                Lasse
                                I have had and have quite a few KM visors (officer class) with the creme colored, seemingly cheesecloth impregnated, waterproof band. Therefore, there is this third variation, that is not uncommon.

                                -Mark
                                Last edited by aardvark; 10-09-2007, 06:09 PM.

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