The great Alteste hunt

[NTZ]

I spent the last 3hrs trying to find the address Wilhelmstraße 110 listed on the cap, past or present. I find nothing. The closest thing I have found was Gestapo headquarters at Wilhelmstraße 102.

[NTZ]

I have a nice contest. Lets see who the first member is to find what was housed at that address during the war, if anything.

[stonemint]

I still cannot believe Maederer and/or Casino looked at this cap and gave it a thumbs up---these hats have been known fakes since I started collecting in the late 70's--how does Wittmann explain plastic in lieu of celluloid?

[NTZ]

I still cannot believe Maederer and/or Casino looked at this cap and gave it a thumbs up---these hats have been known fakes since I started collecting in the late 70's--how does Wittmann explain plastic in lieu of celluloid?

Like I said experts my a$$. It is a joke. Anyone who even knows the basics knows Alteste never existed and are all fakes. Hell you could carbon date some of these fakes and the “experts” will tell you they are real.

[Dave Kane]

.......has basic knowledge and logic been diminished to a 'carbon date' test to prove something is period???

Of course he knows Chris...plastic diamond, etc, etc

One can NOT be in this hobby for 40+ years, put on shows, promote events and NOT at least 'hear' the information swirling around.

It's dealer BULLSH*T through and through.....


MAX Certified means NOTHING and no wonder the venues are fading away!!!

[NTZ]

Well Dave lets see if these guys put there money where there mouth is. I will offer to sell them an SS Alteste at 25% of market value for an SS visor. If these guys are so sure they are real they should jump on it.

[stonemint]

Ok, guys, here is an idea--NTZ is getting 2 altestes...send pix with an offer to sell to Mr. Wittmann for 3/4 of what he is asking--then will see just how much "faith" he has in the originality of an Alteste!

(BTW, you shouldn't have scrapped that SS Alteste of Bob's--Wittmann would have paid you at least $4,000 for it, because his experts told him they are real!)

[NTZ]

Ok, guys, here is an idea--NTZ is getting 2 altestes...send pix with an offer to sell to Mr. Wittmann for 3/4 of what he is asking--then will see just how much "faith" he has in the originality of an Alteste!

(BTW, you shouldn't have scrapped that SS Alteste of Bob's--Wittmann would have paid you at least $4,000 for it, because his experts told him they are real!)

I can still send him the parts

The funny thing is if someone were to put one on estand they would get lynched.

[besslein]

I would think the main Berlin Library would have wartime telephone books on microfilm. There must be a member or two from Berlin.

You might want to check the late 1950s through 1970 for Studio Breuer, in Berlin. That was the source of the Alteste, that I know of. Dr. Breuer bought the rremains of the August Muller business and offered hats with the post-war Muller logo. Under the cloak of a theatrical supply house, Dr. Breuer sold many tunics and hats.

Bob Hritz

now is one telephon book for sale on e-stand
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...89#post2176289

[MattS]

Case closed

My personal doubts have been answered on this matter by the members of this forum and outside experts (honest ones I mean) who confirmed the accuracy of the information on this forum. The actual response was "I have received feedback and the conclusion is everything you need to know has already been covered/exposed on the forums."

If this cap is original then I would like to offer my Alteste Allg. SS General's Cap for the bargain price of $3000!

[MattS]

I found this company listed on the net:

noDNA GmbH, Roboter und Sensorsysteme
Wilhelmstrasse 110
10963 Berlin (Kreuzberg)
Germany

It's the current resident, not wartime, but do I win?!?

[Bob Hritz]

Perhaps a new generation of Alteste hads will be made by robots!

Bob Hritz

[NTZ]

I found this company listed on the net:

noDNA GmbH, Roboter und Sensorsysteme
Wilhelmstrasse 110
10963 Berlin (Kreuzberg)
Germany

It's the current resident, not wartime, but do I win?!?

I found that address too, I believe there is a difference. This one is Wilhelmstrasse and Alteste was Wilhelmstraße. Close but no cigar. Unless I am wrong? Now early Alteste’s had a Wilhelmstraße 66 address not 110. I guess they moved a lot.

[CWP]

"Straße" has become "Strasse" with the recent spelling reforms in Germany. It is the same place.

[MattS]

Can one of our German members contact that company and see if they know the history of their address? Chances are the building has been replaced (circa 1946) as most of Berlin was bulldozed and rebuilt.