Gebirgsjager cap - opinions please

[DougB]

A friend is selling this as authentic Gebirgsjager M43. It shows signs of wear cloth and liner appear period and not postwar. But I have some serious issues with it and wanted to solicit opinions of those with more experience than I on this type of headgear.
You will notice right off a 5 alarm beller, the Edelwiess is sewn on backwards and nowhere near to a 45. I believe I have seen 1 period pic of an EW sewn on backwards but couldnt tell you the book off the top of my head.
Please be specific in your critique, thank you for your opinions!!
SSTk

[billbert]

Might be a field made cap..Think I ve seen ww2 Mt troop with backwards style mounting in fotos ..maybe an austrian origination ..Billbert

[DougB]

Front view closeup of trapezoid insignia and buttons, notice no button holes. the buttons are attached directly to the rear skirt arm and are therefore purely decorative. Anyone seen this before?

[BenVK]

Front view closeup of trapezoid insignia and buttons, notice no button holes. the buttons are attached directly to the rear skirt arm and are therefore purely decorative. Anyone seen this before?

Yes, no problem there, my Officers cap is the same. Can we see an interior shot?

[DougB]

Here is the Edelwiess in all its backwards glory

[DougB]

Stiching of the Edelwiess on the left skirt arm. I am not familiar with what this should look like, even though the EW is not regulation sewn, is the stich pattern correct. The green thread is different than the faded white thread used on the trapeziod, white thread which is another matter...

[DougB]

Interior shot. Appears period and liner appears correct material. Is worn and appears aged.

[B. N. Singer]

...and wanted to solicit opinions...Please be specific in your critique, thank you for your opinions!!
SSTk

Well, that leaves me out, sorry!!!

B. N. Singer

[DougB]

another view of interior. No stiching has come through the liner.
Thanks for any and all opinions.

[BenVK]

Looks pretty good from here. I wouldn't bet my life that the edelweiss has been on there since day one but the rest seems fine. Said it before a million times though, the only way to be sure with these caps is to handle them.

[billbert]

Ditto!!Billbert

[DougB]

Looks pretty good from here. I wouldn't bet my life that the edelweiss has been on there since day one but the rest seems fine. Said it before a million times though, the only way to be sure with these caps is to handle them.

My thoughts were the off white (now very greygreen) stitching on the trapezoid. although the trap appears textbook. I have several M43's but none with decorative buttons. The buttons themselves do appear to be correct. I am sure I have seen a period photo of the EW on backwards, but with that I agree that it may be postwar application. That to me along with no button holes made me wonder if authentic Gebirg. but material, pattern internal and external wear suggest period piece. Postwar app of the EW very possible.

Gotta get a few more to handle! I have a replice to compare to as well.
Thanks gents.

[Glenn McInnes]

Not sure what it is but not an authentic Bergmutze in my opinion.






Glenn

[Hasse.M]

Very nice cap!

There was a gbj division who turned the edelweiss backwards on all their cap's. I once owned a very similar cap as your's that I got from Detlev.

It was 100% original.

I cant remember wich division it was but I do remember that it was one of the more famous one's.

Will search my files and see if I can find anything for you.

Best regards!

[DougB]

Not sure what it is but not an authentic Bergmutze in my opinion.






Glenn

This is an M43 I believe, not a Berg. Visor is too long to be a berg, peak is different I believe.