Is this a transitional Heer visor or what?

[Military Trader]

What the heck is this? Heer ? Forestry? Other?

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[aterrasse]

It certainly looks TR period (or even slightly earlier than that) but it is definitely neither WH nor LW. I would say possibly Post, but this would need to be confirm by someone else - civil and para-military organisations are outside my scope of expertise.

Note the nice and, for sure unusual, costruction of this visor cap.

Kind regards

Alex

[NTZ]

I am not sure what it is but I have seen that type of interior on Pekuro civil visors before. The shape and color is so odd that I am wondering if in is not early West German. Pekuro did continue to make caps after the war.

[Military Trader]

I got this from a local trading partner of mine. He showed it to a guy out west who was recommened to me, for visor repair, from a forum member. The guy said he and a collector friend of his at first thought it was post war but later came to the conclusion it was late weimar/ early TR and could be worn with or without an eagle. I thought he said it was Heer. Although it doesn't look Heer to me. Anyway any and all thoughts are welcome.

[BenVK]

I think this is early post war manufacture. The top lining looks to be made from a plastic material and the markings on the shield are typical of post war Pekuro's.

[Gerard/Relic Hunter]

Postwar cap.

Gerard

[Military Trader]

Thanks for the info. So caps still used DRP patent after the war -- I thought they went to DBP? Unless they used old stock to make new hats.

[uscob]

They couldn't used DBP before the end of 49, because there was no Bundesrepublik and there for no Bundespatent.
Nico

[Military Trader]

Thanks Nico

[Diane]

Definately NOT "Postwar" . . .

Nice cap.

From the markings, workmanship and materials I would date this cap as having been made before 1945. But from what organization? The Army style cap wreath may not be original to the cap.

I have seen similar caps worn by Schutzen (Rifle Clubs) organizations.


Diane

[Military Trader]

Interesting -- I also think the wreath might not be original to the cap -- However the original emblem was the same size for sure.

[Military Trader]

Just an update on this visor. I caught the tail end of a program on the history channel this month called "Hitler's Guerillas" or "Nazi Guerillas", I believe, about the end of the war and the last ditch chaos caused in Germany by a few hard liners who wouldn't accept the occupation. The time frame was right at the end of the war to about 1946 I believe. Anyway in some footage I saw a guy wearing a visor (in the crowd) that was exactly the same shape as this visor. Unfortunatly the image was fleeting and I couldn't see the emblem. But it was just like this visor. Oh well maybe sometime I'll catch the program again.