Arbeitsdienst Buckle..real or fake??

[Thälmannpionier]

Hi all
Just need to know if this one is real or fake
Thanks for your help

[Thälmannpionier]

[lach470]

Looks good to me. Prong and catch appear good. Too bad pics are "fuzzy". Many RAD buckles (not all) had markings on the back, inside the spade....is there anything there. I've seen some with a MM and the year of manufacture. Mine is F.L.L. , with a 38 (1938).
Again, buckles looks good though hard to be definite with low quality pics.

Rob

[David North]

Do not forget boys that there is now a new generation of die stamped RAD buckles (and others) abounding, although I think that the common "fake" mark for the RAD is GB .

The images are on this one a little foggy, although the slight crimp to the claws may give us a clue - Assmann perhaps?

Would like to see more detailed and focused images however.

Regards,

David

[Thälmannpionier]

Thanks so far..

sorry for the delay...here are some better pics to judge..
no markings on the buckle
any further comments are welcome
Thank you

[Thälmannpionier]

[Thälmannpionier]

I have marked the part red, where I have some worries about..it looks like it was replaced sometimes

[David North]

Looks like a perfectly fine Assmann RAD to me.

The loose surround to the bottom of the pin is probably indicative of wear and tear - nothing else.

Is there an Assmann "A" lurking somewhere within the grime of the reverse?

Regards,

David

[Thälmannpionier]

Hi David...thanks

It doesn't really look like wear or tear on this spot it looks more like someone has removed it and placed it back and used a hammer to fix it again..because the typical round head (like on the other side) is missing and it looks like someone just tapped it with a hammer to fix it..

I had a closely look and couldn't find an "A" but I've found a "37" on the back on the right side below the swastika..does the "37" stands for something?

cheers
Andreas

[David North]

Crikey Andreas - I am not sure, what more to say.

The wear on the bottom of the pin looks quite normal to me and I really do not think that someone has been tampering here.

Also, I am sure that if you scrape away on the left side of the swastika (looking at the reverse), you will find an "A" for Assmann.

The 37 by the way indicates the year of manufacture

Regards,

David

[Thälmannpionier]

Thanks alot David

[Radcollector]

Hello,

David do you have any pictures of this die stamped fake RAD buckle?

[David North]

Yancy

Nothing detailed I am afraid.

The link is for the dealers "GB" RAD.

http://www.1944militaria.com/buckle_rad1.jpg

Regards,

David