Strange Buckle

[nutmeg]

I got this today with some of the usual stuff from a local vet's estate. Never saw this particular buckle before . Any ideas?

[schorschi]

4 F = Frisch Fromm
Fröhlich Frei ?
Somekind of Turnerbund Buckle

Best

[yellow12]

Hello ,

turnerschaft/Turnerbund FFFF was forbidden in 1933 !

Why then with swastika ?

IMO the complet buckle is fake .

[nutmeg]

Hello ,

turnerschaft/Turnerbund FFFF was forbidden in 1933 !

Why then with swastika ?

IMO the complet buckle is fake .

The buckle was bought directly from a veteran's estate with other items from one of my local newspaper ads. It is 100% real. Do you think someone is going to make a high quality steel die to make the emblem for just one previously unknown buckle then hide it in a veteran's estate in New England just so I can buy it for a few dollars?

One of the joys of posting something no one has seen before on WAF.

[John T]

It is from the time period before the ban

[GAMS1]

Some kind of post 1933 "modified" TB ?
Interesting !
Nick

[sturmtrupp]

i like what i see! its has good chance to be period.
never seen such design myself before.

[Guido L.]

i like what i see! its has good chance to be period.
never seen such design myself before.

Fully agree and also new to me.

[brus]

i like what i see! its has good chance to be period.
never seen such design myself before.

+1

Regards
brus

[klr]

The solder job looks different than all my two piece buckles. No telling when the roundel was added.


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[sturmtrupp]

ugly soldering is quite common. i have seen ss buckles where most part of backside was covered with brazing alloy.
i suppose it depends on skills of worker in fabrick. if he was new to this work he could done his job with mistakes as that.

[NortonI]

Thanks for showing, never seen before, but I am also quiete sure it is authentic.

[paulj]

A fellow collector has a matching flag. The FFFF design with the center swastika is in red on a white ground.