Imperial Buckle

[Del Panfini]

Hi,

could I please have your opinion on this WW1 buckle. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Del

[Del Panfini]

Imperial Buckle

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[klr]

Original buckle. I remember a box of these at a gun show in the 70’s $2 each 3 for $5. Mint still in the paper wrapper. Lots of these are still around.


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[Jerry Burney]

I don't like it. The prong housing is a WW2 folded metal. WW1 buckles had a tube with the prongs soldered on. The catch is also WW2 style. Also the prongs are curved. I am no expert but this whole buckle is from a later era than WW1.

[ww1czechlegion]

Kirby is correct.

by member Jerry Burney:
I don't like it. The prong housing is a WW2 folded metal. WW1 buckles had a tube with the prongs soldered on. The catch is also WW2 style. Also the prongs are curved. I am no expert but this whole buckle is from a later era than WW1.

It's a typical Model 1915 steel buckle. I believe that you're confused with the Model 1895 buckles.

The prongs inside the folded medal on this example shown are textbook for M15 Imperial German buckles.

The model M95 (1895) buckles had the welded brass prongs attached to the brass tube.

The curved shape of the metal "feet" of the catch are typical of the myriad of styles of catches for M15 buckles. There is no "one style/shape for all" so as to speak for Imperial M15 buckles. Sometimes they are straight, sometimes they are curved shape. And sometimes there are no "feet", with the rod directly welded to the back of the buckle box with no flattened "feet" as we see on this example.

I see no red flags about this buckle, it appears to be 100% original WW1 manufacture and was never issued or worn.

I have a similar example in my collection, still wrapped in the paper.

I believe Jeff Schrader of Advance Guard Militaria told me of a state historical society out east (maybe it was Pennsylvania) that still has an entire box full of these type of buckles individually wrapped in the paper as they were from the factory in Imperial Germany.

Best Regards,

Alan

[p38]

hello

good buckle

but IMO product after WW1 for veterans org., it can be seen on Assmann catalog

best

Emmanuel

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[p38]

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[Guido L.]

I am also not a friend of these.
Way too much unworn pieces of them around on the market.
I remember that someone told me once, the crooked cross on the top of the crown indicates a copy ... anyways ... this piece will never enter into my collec.

but IMO product after WW1 for veterans org., it can be seen on Assmann catalog

Could be, Emmanuel, but the prussian buckle shown in the Assmann catalogue is as light as the other examples made from brass.

[NortonI]

@Guido - what do you mean by "crooked cross" it looks pretty good to me.

@all - has someone a worn piece of this one? I only saw them mint, which makes it doubtful to me too.