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2 NSDAP Buckles
Hello Forum Members,
Every once and awhile you have to stick your head out and see which way the wind blows.
I have a NSDAP Silver Buckle marked RZM 4/24. I have seen these listed in several books and even had a NSDAP Judicial uniform that came with one, it had silver buttons on the tunic. It is pictured in the first 2 posts in this thread.
My question is "Are these acceptable in today's collecting world as authentic?
My second question is on the last 2 posts, the gold NSDAP buckle. I have many variants in my collection and have many through out the years, this one is not made of aluminium. It is made of something solid and weighs 3.12 ounces compaired to the average 1.3 ounces. has anyone ever seen one that was not aluminium?
It is maker marked M4/77.
By the way the Silver one weighs 1.03 ounces. It is a smaller size too. My calipers battery is out, but the SILVER buckle is 2 inches in diameter, while the others are 2.25 inches in diameter.
Any opinions or can any one help me with this.
I think the silver version is good.
I also think the Solid one is good, but have never seen another.
Any help would be appreciated.
JacK
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I have posted my brocade belt size silver NSDAP buckle and most people believe these are original but never got their gold finish. I was thinking it might have something to do with the Political Schools. They have silver button on their tunic. Jeff Clark who authored a book on political uniforms didn't think it had anything to do with the schools.
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HELLO klr,Originally posted by klr View Post
As I said, I had a complete NSDAP Judicial outfit, tunic, pants and paperwork, Id booklet. That had a silver NSDAP buckle and silver buttons. I have actually had 2 of them. (the other one I ownd in 1977 and traded it for something) So I am pretty sure that it is Judicial for sure, but what other uses it had, I am not sure of.
But I have been told:
1. they were fakes
2. that all the gilt came off
3. that they never got around to putting the gold finish on them, I just do not think any of this is accurate. The silver one is listed in MANY MANY reference books. And while that does not make it accurate either.
I am just trying to see what the prevailing wind is on "whether or not they are considered period correct" I have 2 of them (one in my collection, and this one. They are identical. But I want to sell this one and do not want to sell something that might be considered "not correct" in todays market, it is not what I think or know, and it is perception and not accuracy. If it does not pass this forums idea of something that is correct, I might as well put it in the bone pile.
As for the other one, I have been told it is a early leader. It is solid, heavy, but not the smaller size of the high leaders buckle. So I think it is just a rare variation of the aluminium molded version.
JacK
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Sounds like your thinking the same way I was. Why have Political tunics with silver buttons and then use a gold buckle? All the small silver ones I have seen have been marked M4/24. My silver one is identical to a gold one I have owned for thirty years. I think it is original.
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Does any one else have anything to add, your comments are greatly appreciated.
1. Is the silver NSDAP buckle accepted in todays community ?
2. Is the gold solid backle just a variant ?
Thank You,
JacK
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Here is a buckle I have been told is a molded fake. A fellow collector says these
are being sold at fairs in Europe. It is 2-3 x the weight of a normal NSDAP.
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