RODO SS: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

... and there

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

.. Then here

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

..To continue there

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

I will finish the UGLY part by stressing the obvious, even to someone not having a clue about SS buckles produced by Robert Dold or by the V chest fakes.
Pay attention to the tag showing on the so-called original box, foundation to this article. Then pay attention to what a member replied in the Military Advisor thread:

"The question I have to the author of this new 'reference' is, did the tag came with the box full of buckles?
I mean there are at least 3 errors on the tag, the city seems to be Offenberg (correct is Offenburg), the state Baden-Württemberg (not Württemburg) was founded in the 1950's. "

He was exact: the Province was founded in 1952.

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

My last note would be on the VERY UGLY
A mistake can be done. A mistake can be forgiven and also forgotten. But trying to hurt the collector's community when truth is known and obvious should not be.

http://www.adroystermilitaria.com/

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

Please note that the VERY UGLY always hides himself. He hides the true rotten dealer within behind a noble crusader. A crusader does not have selling tables in Military Shows.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=857444

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

This was the latest attempt to duplicate an original RODO. For it, fakers were using a new die which was very convincing to duplicate Assmann SS buckles. Such fake die is still in use today to stamp fake 155/40's and fake 155/43's but not many fake RODO's.

Even if such fake buckle is not pictured in the Military Advisor article posted above (in the Military Advisor article there is only V chest fakes) I still feel it is interesting for the collector to be aware of its existence.

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

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[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

sizes in Millimetres of an original (fakes are different as of today)

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

To finish, I would like to make you realize that the V chest fakes displayed all over this article were made with the exact same die / eagle design as the fake 36/42 posted here
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=331817

or the fake first generation Assmann 155/40 posted here (wrote in 2002!)
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=14097

How many markings those V chest can have? The list is too long! Suffice to say that even one series made in 2004 was produced bearing the already widely known false OLT from Tony Oliver!!

[KC1]

Well thought out and written JP. Many thanks for enlightening those who may be unfamiliar.

Ric - I believe this information is important enough for current and future collectors that this should be a pinned thread. Do you agree?

[Joda]

Concrete and exaustive thread. Well done Jean Pierre.

[ivanjoaquin]

http://www.wwiidaggers.com/38480.htm

[brus]

http://www.wwiidaggers.com/38480.htm

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

Thanks to Ivanjoacquin who is screening dealers websites I contacted Wittman this morning. The submitted buckle is going to disappear. Also, he asked me to let him know which other ones were bad, which I will do. Of course I will not be able to help for non SS buckles. But it is good to see the very ugly is far from be the most trusted in this world!