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    Several buckles for review

    Fellow collectors,
    I am taking a look at an auction which has numerous buckles, several which I found to be fake after researching on here. The following I'm uncertain and was hoping for some input. To me, I didn't see any obvious signs of casting.
    Thank you!
    -Robert

    1. This SS leader style one I couldn't find anything on, at least on the search phrases I tried. I have never seen anything like this and am certain it's fake.



    2. Political leader brocade, this looks OK, oddly very clean and I am waiting on more pictures.




    3. Justice officials buckles



    4. Judicial leader



    5. Heer leader



    6. Political Leader

    Last edited by Hafke77; 05-12-2016, 04:10 PM.

    #2
    The SS leaders is a very bad fake. The NADAP brocade doesn't look good from these photos. It looks to flat. Real one have more of a raised appearance and better details. A dealer at the SOS has had a fake the last two years. He swore it was real but it was less than half the price of an original. This one just doesn't show the quality. Ask for better photos but I wouldn't buy it based on these.


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      #3
      Hello,
      sorry, I do not like any of these buckles. The judicial ones seem to be some of the newest fake generation.
      Best regards, Thomas

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        #4
        They could be some of the new generation of fakes. Here is a couple for comparison. I have had these for at least 25 years.


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          #5
          Another


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            #6
            Thank you Klr and Thomas for your responses. Is that SS a fantasy piece? Like I wrote, I can not find anything similar. When I receive more pictures of the political leader brocade I will add them to this thread. There were a few other good fakes they had listed in that auction like the HJ leader m4/116 in gold and silver, there were several obvious casting flaws on them that I found. So with those fakes and my suspicion on these I want to verify with the ones I have no knowledge of.

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              #7
              I see the same DRGM 37 code on the reverse.
              Originally posted by klr View Post
              Another


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                #8
                The marking are the same. There is a good thread on these. Search new generation fakes. If these are fakes they are very high quality.

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                  #9
                  I'll do some research on those, but based off those markings being faked and the other fakes I recognized, I'm going play it safe and stay away from those. I am hoping for better pictures of the brocade belt. I also think the last 2 I posted are ok, the political leader and Heer, but they are not in the best of condition.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by planet View Post
                    Hello,
                    ........The judicial ones seem to be some of the newest fake generation.
                    Best regards, Thomas
                    Thomas is right

                    Ric

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                      #11
                      I received the additional pictures of the Political leader brocade. Opinions?




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