HJ Buckles

[cartier]

Hi everyone, just picked these up and crave confirmation!

Here's the first one.











Second one.

















There appears to be markings under the finish, but I can't make them out.

[zeppelin]

Hello. A good buckle. The First M4/30 Berg & Nolte. Second - M4/42 Hermann Aurich.

[cartier]

Thank you.