HAMBURG marked HJ Buckle

[Colorado]

I have had this HAMBURG marked HJ Buckle for a pretty long time. Nickel-silver and very early I presume. Anyone ever seen one marked like this?

[Colorado]

backside

[David North]

Jeff

What an interesting HJ you have.

Two questions :-

1. are you sure and with all due respect, that the metal is nickle silver, as from the images on the Forum, an alloy of some sort shouts out?
2. how is the roundel attached to the box?

A tad nervous about this buckle Jeff.

Regards,

David

[Colorado]

Hi David - No worries. Let the chips fall. The roundel is soldered at the 2,4,8 & 10 o'clock position. It could be a alloy as you state. It came in a (long since busted up) HJ buckle, document, photo, badge grouping I bought. Only have it and two HJ Leistung badges (separated by 10 serial numbers) remaining.

Is there a red flag other than it is not a known maker?

[Colorado]

Here's another angle

[David North]

Jeff

I really hate this scenario on the Forum, when some bl**dy oik in England, passes judgement on a buckle.

To be quite honest, I think that this HJ is a somewhat unusual and quite distinct FAKE.

I have seen similar by construction buckles, although never a HJ roundel brazed or soldered onto a composite alloy box and also, why the declaration of HAMBURG !

Regards,

David

[Colorado]

No worries, I have nothing invested in this item. I found the Hamburg odd myself. Never got around to researching the buckle until now. Unusual it would have been stuck in with an otherwise good group. That is a good way to get rid of a spurious piece.

What's wrong with England, my mother's family got kicked out there in 30's? They knew we were trouble.