This is the penal administration of the III Reich buckle to an officer that I have for sale in this forum to find out their views.
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Another belt and buckles on sale in oakleafmilitaria to another maker:
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Penal Administration belt buckle to an officer
I have one like it in my collection and I have owned for 20-25 years but there is a new generation of fakes that recently came out. There. Was a thread a few months ago title Possible New Fakes and this type was mentioned. Good straight on photos of the front and back would help. Here is one in gold.ImageUploadedByTapatalk1362764581.407446.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1362764701.436094.jpgComment
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Penal Administration belt buckle to an officer
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1362764779.568714.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1362764802.192839.jpg Pardon the photos but here is a silver one I have had 20-25 years.Comment
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Kirby's silver one is a textbook example to compare with.Originally posted by klr View Post
Of course his gold one is original as well......
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For me, are equal
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It must be borne in mind that mine is made of aluminum, the klr does not.
It is the same manufacturer, same marking but different material and different time and dies
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another on sale equal on oakleafmilitaria
http://www.oakleafmilitaria.com/images/1209b2-1.jpg
http://www.oakleafmilitaria.com/1209b2.html
the prize request from oakleaf seller is 450$
seller description:
"1209B2 - Penal/Justice Official buckle by Assmann. This aluminum buckle is the style shown in John Angolia's authoritative book," BELT BUCKLES & BROCADES of the THIRD REICH" ( REVISED EDITION), published by R. James Bender Publishing, Copyright 2001, page 454 bottom photograph. This buckle features the short-winged right-facing eagle encircled by a wreath with a bow at the bottom. The reverse displays The Assmann "A" , DRGM and is dated"37". "
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Originally posted by marisca lrommel View Post
Marisca,
Kirby's silver one is by alu like yours.
Ric
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To help viewers making their own opinion, let's start by a repro close-up : pay attention to pebbling inside leafs...Last edited by Ric Ferrari; 03-09-2013, 10:03 AM.Comment
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Is the image of the first plane that you publish my buckle or the klr?
Suggests you my buckle and Oakleafmilitaria(exactly the same as my buckle) are false?Comment
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If you're referring to close-up #10 , it's another buckle (100 % repro) just for comparison with yours.Originally posted by marisca lrommel View Post
Here's another close-up of the same repro shown by pic #10
RicLast edited by Ric Ferrari; 03-09-2013, 12:45 PM.Comment
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But then, friend Rick... think my buckle is real or repro?: Confused:Comment
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Please post close-ups of your buckle by the exact same angle as the repro posted (see pics #10 and #12).Originally posted by marisca lrommel View Post
So far something I like it and something don't, that's the reason of my request to post it for discussion.
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Hello ,Originally posted by marisca lrommel View Post
in my opinion also your buckle is a fake .
Kirby's has a white anodized finish how all other originals i know .
But yours missing this complet .
Also the markers stamping is not similar to the original .Comment
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