Can someone please tell me what type of buckle this is and if it's worth anything. Sorry for the bad pics but they were sent to me by phone. Thanks, Jay
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The design is for a "Later Stahlhelm (WWI vet's org) " buckle; in Reid's
German Belt Buckles book, pg.58,59, illus. #150.
Impossible to tell if original from photos. Any marks on back?
There are several Stahlhelm buckle designs that were issued post- and
interwar periods. I have an early period design that, depending on condition ,
is in the 65-85USD range, maybe more for top shape or variant?
Unfortunately for your buckle I cannot see even a hint of an inscription
on the helmet in the design--does not bode well, but need better photos.
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Thanks for the info. I'll try to get better photos and post them. Regards, JayComment
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If you are able to get better photos, also try posting in the
Freikorps/Weimar Era forum.Comment
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I posted this at another forum:
a) In the official Stahlhelm-newspaper from July 1, 1925 the Stahlhelm-buckle to be worn was noted in an advertisement in field-grey and polished brass.
The drawing showed the "Front Heil"-version. The same form of buckle was also available for the Jungstahlhelm, but with the sword instead of the helmet;
b) In the Stahlhelm-newspaper from April 18, 1926 a short note was published about the manufacturing of the new style buckles 4.5 cm for
Stahlhelm, Jungstahlhelm and Stahlhelm-Landsturm. These new buckles, in field-grey and with the large eagle, then were to be manufactured only by
Noelle & Heuck (mentioned in the newspaper-article);
c) in 1926 Noelle & Heuck from Lüdenscheid advertised in a leaflet with these new buckles, which were according to DRGM Nr. 924278 and gesetzlich
geschützt. They mention they were the only manufacturer (at that moment) and phrased it as "the belt-buckle for the Bund";
d) the Stahlhelm handbook, dated November 15, 1927 mentions: "the official to be worn belt was 6.0 cm wide (and has a double-claw)". Other forms of
belts and buckles were allowed. The only noted form is the one with the larger eagle (Landsturm was not included anymore as this sub-organization
was no longer in existance as 1926. In papers from the High-Command this sub-organization was not included anymore in October 1926;
e) 1929 price-list from Der Stahlhof mentions (new) 6.0 cm wide belt with double-claw. These were mainly worn by leaders; (new) belt for the 4.5 cm buckle for Stahlhelm and Jungstahlhelm.
No form is mentioned, but it is obvious this is the field-grey version;
f) Handbook 1931 (from about March) mentions the buckle with large eagle only. ONLY available through the "Der Stahlhof"-source. They took care for
manufacturing, which was done by various concerns. No other forms of buckles were mentioned;
g) big advertisement from May 21, 1931 from Der Stahlhof about the buckles to be worn (attention).
According to regulations this were the field-grey 4.5 cm wide versions for Stahlhelm and Jungstahlhelm (ges.gesch). Important is what is said now:
all other forms of buckles, which are manufactured by concerns and sold by dealers and shops, especially those that do show the symbol for the Bund (the steel-helmet) as decoration in its middle are FORBIDDEN. These buckles were not contrary the protection of insignia for the organization. Manufacturers and so on were "seen in court!" In fact all buckles could only be purchased through Der Stahlhof-source.
This did not change anymore until the Bund became nazi. Belt-buckles were not official anymore then. Officially the double-claw had to be worn.
So, the shown buckle was in use anyway from about 1926 and by this is not a later buckle anyway.Comment
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