Gott Mit Uns

[Bluehawk]

I've searched a bit to see if this topic has been discussed, to no avail at the moment, so am asking.

The inscription "Gott Mit Uns" appeared on the back of some buckles, I understand.

My questions are:

> For how long did this appear?

> Was it engraved or cast into the buckle?

> Did ALL buckles have this inscription?

> How and when did inscribing it originate?

[Bluehawk]

Just today I viewed a buckle on WAF with the inscription on the front, not reverse, side.

Was this common?

p.s.
I know this is a very basic question, but do appreciate the 73 or so members who have viewed the thread.

[klr]

I have never seen Gott mit Uns of the back of a buckle.

[josh105]

I'm not sure I quite understand the question... Are you wondering if "Gott Mit Uns" (God With Us) appeared on the front of ALL Third Reich buckles? To that the answer is no... I've attached the common buckles it appeared on. (There are also some fakes that it appears on). As for it being stamped on the reverse I would imagine if you saw that it was likely engraved by the owner himself... Not to my knowledge was it ever produced with this motto appearing on the reverse.

To my understanding you will only see it on Army & Police (EM & officer), buckles, and two WW1 buckles, but I'm not at home - and nothing else is coming to mind...

WW2:




WW1:

[josh105]

Oh, and here is a bit on the origin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gott_mit_uns

[morel5000]

The first "ww1" buckle posted (with the eagle a and no swastika) is in fact Reichswehr -1918 -1934.

It was also on the Prussian buckles in the 1870/71 war (which look like the ww1 posted here only with a larger medallion).

Best regards,
Michel

[josh105]

The first "ww1" buckle posted (with the eagle a and no swastika) is in fact Reichswehr -1918 -1934.

Ah, my mistake - I usually group all early century buckles under WW1 - since I have no aspirations to collect!

[Bluehawk]

I have never seen Gott mit Uns of the back of a buckle.

Thank you. The reason I asked the question is that, after doing a bit of a search on my own, and asking the question elsewhere among militaria types, the answers didn't seem complete.

No better place to ask than here, and I appreciate the replies.

[Bluehawk]

I'm not sure I quite understand the question... Are you wondering if "Gott Mit Uns" (God With Us) appeared on the front of ALL Third Reich buckles? To that the answer is no... I've attached the common buckles it appeared on. (There are also some fakes that it appears on). As for it being stamped on the reverse I would imagine if you saw that it was likely engraved by the owner himself... Not to my knowledge was it ever produced with this motto appearing on the reverse.

To my understanding you will only see it on Army & Police (EM & officer), buckles, and two WW1 buckles, but I'm not at home - and nothing else is coming to mind...

Very helpful indeed!

You have debunked and sustained at the same time, and I very much appreciate it.

Thanks to all...

[Bluehawk]

The first "ww1" buckle posted (with the eagle a and no swastika) is in fact Reichswehr -1918 -1934.

It was also on the Prussian buckles in the 1870/71 war (which look like the ww1 posted here only with a larger medallion).

Best regards,
Michel

Tremendously helpful.

Now, at least, I will have some notion of what I am seeing.