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    Colours of Heer buckles

    Hi,
    I've been searching for some time on the Forum but haven't had much luck (maybe I'm a bad searcher!). My question is whether there are any clear dates/ years (1943, 1944, late 1944 etc?) for the introduction of the late-war blue-grey 'einheits-farbe' (universal colour) ?

    I'd also be interested to know if this subject is covered in any reference books (or online sources) e.g Nash's book.

    I'm also curious about grey or black buckles etc and whether members think that some Heer buckles were still being painted field-grey up until the very end presumably if they still had the paint stocks available? (I have an unmarked field-grey Overhoff and would be curious to know if it can be dated in any way from it's colour)?

    If this is a subject with many unknowns and variables that is still being researched then please feel free to tell me and put me out of my misery!

    Best regards, Paul
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    A great thought - I by know means have researched this at any extent but hopefully I can help a little,

    The earliest black buckle I have seen was dated 1942. There are plenty of 1943 examples and I think this is the year generally accepted as the start of black/grey/dark blue heer buckles.

    I have read that in 1944 there was a uniform regulation change that saw buttons of the heer uniform take the colour of painted black and perhaps (no records) the buckles followed suit during this change.

    Now my thought is, this regulation come from necessity (markers were already painting their buckles black, due to the lack of olive green) therefore we see black buckles earlier than 1944.

    There is then the argument that any and all earlier war buckle is a KM (coastal artillery), and there are period photographs showing the KM wearing these black buckles.

    It's a debate that kind of shows its ugly teeth every time a black buckle is shown, and until there is some period evidence - to each his own.

    Hope that helped and didn't confuse the situation more.

    1941 – Olive Green
    1942 – Generally Olive/Field Green but there are black examples
    1943 – Dated ’43 & painted black/blue – 1943 buckles also in Olive Green
    1944 – Black/Blue (Aug/Sept change in regulations) and green heer seen
    1945 – Generally Black/Blue (I’ve seen 1 field green ’45 stamped buckle)
    Last edited by josh105; 06-02-2012, 12:29 PM.

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      Thanks

      Hi joshlichty, many thanks for the informative reply - much appreciated!

      I hope if there are any more thoughts or observations from others you will add to this thread!

      Regards, Paul

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        Edit:

        Black Blue Examples:

        1940 - Quite scares black/blue buckles seen (Makers: Schmole, Aurich, ?)
        1941 – Few examples of black/blue buckles
        1942 – Generally Olive/Field Green but there are few+ black examples
        1943 – Dated ’43 & painted black/blue – 1943 buckles also in Olive Green
        1944 – Black/Blue (Aug/Sept change in regulations) and green heer seen
        1945 – Generally Black/Blue (I’ve seen 1 field green ’45 stamped buckle)

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