Lw Buckle opinions?

[Yannis]

Dear all

I bought this buckle at a show without too much thought (it looked nice )

From the moment I returned home I've started having this uncomfortable feeling about it.
I don't know much about buckles, I admit.
It's a sort of greyish color rather than dark blue grey which I'm used at seeing when looking at Lw buckles and i noticed that paint comes off too easy when you scratch it with your nail. When I say scratch I mean really the lightest of touches... Not the best indication IMO..
A recent repaint perhaps?
I tried a search for C.T.D.1942 but nothing came up.

Your opinions are welcome. what say you?

[Yannis]

the back

[regiment739]

Yannis is that new rust on the buckle or some form of paint or something?

[Yannis]

Ben

It is rust.

Also in the obverse photo, top right corner, the dark blue under the actual color seems to be this sort of blueing that happens to metals after heating.

[Ric Ferrari]

Hello Yannis,

by the pics the buckle looks an original one by C. Th. Dicke but probably repainted : you may usually find them blu or silver painted with the finishing factory applied quite strong.

Best

Ric

[regiment739]

Ric, is the new rust due to the repaint?

[Ric Ferrari]

Ric, is the new rust due to the repaint?

Ben,

probably the buckle was sand blasted before receiving the new paint but by such way any primer or anti rust treatment was lost.
The second option is that under the green paint somewhere the original paint is still there : look at the blu spot at 2 o'clock.

Ric

[Willi Z.]

It looks like a non-wartime repaint to me as well. Sorry Yannis.

[Yannis]

The second option is that under the green paint somewhere the original paint is still there : look at the blu spot at 2 o'clock.

Ric

Hi Ric and Willi
Thanks for chiming in!
There is no blue paint underneath, this blue is the metal itself, like it was heated.
Willi, I'm guessing the ease with which the color just lifts is a sure sign that something here is not as it should be.
Thanks guys, I appreciate your help very much!!

[p38]

Hello

blue color of metal due to the electric catch soldering..

why did you say the buckle looks repainted ?

Some mint inussued buckles have spot of rust due to bad storage...



best
Emmanuel

[Yannis]

Bonjour Emmanuel!

Actually I am not saying anything, I am asking as I don't know.
What seemed strange to me was 2 things
1) the color itself (grey) which I am not used to seeing in Lw buckles and
2) the fact that the color flakes away with the slightest of touches.

Thank you for solving the metal blueing question!!

[Ric Ferrari]

Hello Yannis,

and thanks for close-up : definitively not the original blu paint as I previously guessed, more likely the original paint could be silver.

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Emmanuel,

usually you are not able to take away the paint (factory applied) by a nail, as Yannis does say. On the other end if the paint was "field" applied, I expected a different patina.

Best

Ric

[p38]

ok !

I've read too fast: didn't see Yannis sentence with "nail"...

best
Emmanuel

[Yannis]

Thank you all who offered your opinion, I very much appreciate your help!

[Willi Z.]

Mint, worn, or rusty.....original paint just doesn't look like that. Original paint doesn't wear like that either.