Bavarian buckle with prongs cut at 45 degrees

[nzef1940]

Greetings all

I had heard that all buckles with the prongs cut at 45 degrees on one side only where wrong. Here is a good example that perhaps this is a collector myth.

[nzef1940]

--------

[nzef1940]

The nasty prongs

[nzef1940]

==========

[nzef1940]

=-=-=-=

[David North]

In my opinion, nothing "nasty" about the claws shown.

Attached however is an image of the fake claw tips that you were alluding to.

Regards,

David

[nzef1940]

Thanks David, these are the first of this claw tip type I have seen on an Imperial buckle.

[90th Light]

This is a very interesting buckle indeed because if someone described that to me then I would have said that the 45 degree prongs were a sure sign of a fake.

Yet I can see on this one which "nzef1940" has put up that it is 100% correct just look at the construction, wear, age, patina of a real buckle.

Will have to go back and look at mine but I am fairly sure this is the first time I have seen the 45 degree prong on a real one. (pre-1916/17 style of prong too)

Very en lighting, thanks for posting

Chris

[keifer kahn]

Prongs cut at 45 degrees do not instantly indicate fake.

The prongs most associated with fakes need to have the reverse or opposed cut and be at 45 degrees , as Davids example shows.

The imperial buckle,s prongs dont have a reverse cut and look fine to me.

It sems to me that the"reverse cut "part of the rule has been forgotten and peiople are only remembering the 45 degree part.

I also believe that close examination of the tips on the original buckle posted under magnification would reveal some slight angling"^" on the face of each tip where its been cut.

The fake 45 degree reverse cut prongs are generally flat on the face of each tip.