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    A & S ss belt buckle

    Thanks to those wo helped me.

    To David Hal, wo even sendet me an agressive mail, I can only say that he should be banned from this forum. We should help eachother on this forum.

    I agree with David NORTH. I apologise as well to those wo I offended. The buckle has gone as a fake to a relative.

    Greetings,
    Frank
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        Frank

        I am afraid that your assumption is wrong.

        A fake SS buckle.

        Found both with and without fake markings and in this case, a spurious or fantasy stamping in situ to suggest "Assmann".

        Regards,

        David

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            Frank,

            David is 100% correct. That A&S mark can be found on other buckles too. I know how difficult it is to accept because the detail is good, but is a fake.

            Gene
            WAF LIFE COACH

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                Originally posted by German_military
                Hello,
                Can you show me than several of these fakes? That would convince me.

                I still haven't heard a single good argument why it's a fake.

                Greetings,
                Frank
                Hallo Frank,

                in the thread below you may see the same fake buckle (with a different mark), compared with an original one.

                Best

                Ric
                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...t=36%2F42+fake

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                    fake ss

                    hello frank,

                    it can be a real pain to face the truth. sorry, but the others are right. it´s a known fake that can easily be spotted by the diamont shaped feathers of the eagle with or without stamp.

                    regards

                    sven

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                      I agree with the comments of the other members. This Assmann mark first showed up on DAF buckles. Fooled a lot of people also. I have to admit that this is the first one I have ever seen on an SS but never the less it is a phony mark regardless. Sorry about that. There are a lot of phony SS buckles that are very tough to tell with the correct marks. This one is easy to pick out due to this marking.

                      Bill

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                        Look closely at the shape of the eagle's body and then look at photos of known originals... you will see that this eagle is not the same as any of the originals. Once you learn this eagle and know what to look for you will be amazed at how many times this same style of buckle is being sold as original. Luckily the shape of the body is rather distinct which makes identification possible even with somewhat blurry photos.

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                            No Frank, the collector do not assume that this buckle is a fake, they know it very well!!
                            This fake was discussed many many times in all its variations. Sometimes with the Assmann marking, sometimes RODO or 36/36 and many times 36/42. It could be found in different colors or with crude artificially aging like yours.
                            You can find this fake on nearly all fairs and many flea markets. Recently a dealer sold them on a German auction site for 19,90 € in large quantitis.

                            There is no need to discuss the details of this fake...the catch, the stamping (design), the marking...NOTHING is correct!


                            Christian

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