155/43 ss buckle

[Sergey]

What do you think about its originality?

[Sergey]

What do you think about its originality?

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[Sergey]

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[Roman (Russia)]

I know very little about SS buckles but i do not like this one.

[Sergey]

I know very little about SS buckles but i do not like this one.

Roman, what exactly you dont like in this buckle?

[Roman (Russia)]

In my opinion (in compare with another 155/43 SS buckles):

1) i don't like detals of eagle's head
2) i think the ears at the belt's hook is too wide
3) as is see the detals of the swastika not good (but maybe it's just foto)
4) bad foto, but - maybe the upper end fo the catch is attached not correct
5) probably the coating is not original

I'm wrong maybe. Let's listen another opinions. Will be very interesting.

[Sergey]

In my opinion (in compare with another 155/43 SS buckles):

1) i don't like detals of eagle's head
2) i think the ears at the belt's hook is too wide
3) as is see the detals of the swastika not good (but maybe it's just foto)
4) bad foto, but - maybe the upper end fo the catch is attached not correct
5) probably the coating is not original

I'm wrong maybe. Let's listen another opinions. Will be very interesting.

Roman, could you send some images of the buckle which is original for you?

[David North]

Sergey

Past threads.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.net/foru...d.php?t=104923

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.net/foru...light=155%2F43

Regards,

David

[Sergey]

Thank you David it looks like original. Tell me please what is this on the photo? I have seen this traces only on original buckles.

[Vlad]

Hi Sergey.

My opinion buckle original

[David North]

Sergey

The marks that you have highlighted are "tool" marks and actually, they sometimes appear on both original and fake buckles.

The theory is that if a specific design of buckle is manufactured by a particular company, at a single works and employing dedicated machinery (tools), every buckle emanating from this same process line, will show the same flaws, marks, etc.

It is rather like a fingerprint, special and unique to the buckle.

As such, collectors who say specialise in a particular buckle, by holding a number of the same, can identify common tool marks. It is not the presence of a tool mark per se which indicates the buckle as being original and rather, the exact tool mark by minute detail.

The marks that you show have been left over from when the catch was applied and which I assume was via the resistance spot welding technique. An electric current method and which generates an arc, although if the current is too powerful, it can leave a mark on the obverse.

Regards,

David

[Roman (Russia)]

It's interesting what David said. I did not know about it.

Sergey,
sorry i still have not digital camera but i found some pics form another forums. What do you think about it?

[vonStubben]

Thank you David it looks like original. Tell me please what is this on the photo? I have seen this traces only on original buckles.

To re-iterate what David has said.

What you are seeing exactly, are the "spot weld" marks left by the tool which "spot welds" the catch to the buckle in it's manufacturing process. These tools look a bit like a pair of pliers. When they come together they weld whatever two pieces of metal are between them, and leave this mark on the outside of the metal, which has had the piece welded to it. The crimp on the catch is also caused by this process.