Brunswick Braunschweig Police Belt Buckle Opinion

[cerick1450]

Hello

How does this buckle look? Original? I would assume this is late war without leather Tab.
Thank you for the help in advance.

[Guido L.]

Original it is, but used by postwar fire defence units in Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen).

[cerick1450]

Thank you for the help. Was this a wartime made buckle?

[Guido L.]

No, as written postwar.

[brus]

Nice postwar

Regards
brus

[wilhelm Saris]

Thank you for the help. Was this a wartime made buckle?

as said, it is postwar, but the box could have been from old stocks and so be wartime.
Have seen a crate with them at a Lüdenscheid manufacturer. They needed only to make the "disc"!

[wilhelm Saris]

as said, it is postwar, but the box could have been from old stocks and so be wartime.
Have seen a crate with them at a Lüdenscheid manufacturer. They needed only to make the "disc"!

There won't be much persons around that are still alive that ever have visited manufacturer's .
My visits were arranged in the earliest 1970's. So now, about 50 years ago!!

[Nightwish]

Original it is, but used by postwar fire defence units in Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen).

Yes, it is postwar Lower-Saxony. But later there came another pattern.

[wilhelm Saris]

Yes, it is postwar Lower-Saxony. But later there came another pattern.

Overhoff sold this one in the early seventies as Reitervereine with article-number 0797/45 mm.
Price-list page 14. At that moment the box was from quite shiny lightweight material. The same
boxes were used for fire-brigade buckles, as well as the police from Hamburg and a buckle that
was sold as "neutral". Other pages from pirce-lists do show the same boxes to be used with
other buckles/organizations.

[Nightwish]

Hello Wilhelm,

I am collection firebrigade-items. But it is new to me, these were sold as "Reitervereine"! That is an interesting hint! With the Slogan "Gott mit uns"!?

I think the Boxes mostly have been for universal use.

Best regards

Nightwish

[wilhelm Saris]

Hello Wilhelm,
I am collection firebrigade-items. But it is new to me, these were sold as "Reitervereine"! That is an interesting hint! With the Slogan "Gott mit uns"!?

I think the Boxes mostly have been for universal use Best regards Nightwish

Yes, I know and sounds strange, but as such it is in their price-list. The boxes for many of such buckles were all the same. I did observe this during my various visits in the earlyiest 1970's at the Overhoff concern.

[GAMS1]

Early post war buckle made with left over private purchase WW2 buckles .
They simply replaced the eagle on the matrix by a regional symbol like this horse .
Much easier to organize the transformation on an alu buckle as you only have to replace the removable buckle center , not the whole buckle like with iron ones .
Did you still see "Gott mit uns" and this matt alu on 70's buckle ? not that logical ?
Nick

[Nightwish]

That is not my point. It is a known fact (even to me!), that WW2-Buckle-Boxes were used in post-war production and for taking different layers, and the layers matrix have been denazifiyed.

The point that makes me wonder, was, that the Brunswick-Buckle-Model was sold to private Reitervereine with the "Gott mit uns!"-Slogan.

That means not, Wilhelm, that I disbelieve your statement!

But possibly my english isn't good enough to point it out.

[wilhelm Saris]

That is not my point. It is a known fact (even to me!), that WW2-Buckle-Boxes were used in post-war production and for taking different layers, and the layers matrix have been denazifiyed.

The point that makes me wonder, was, that the Brunswick-Buckle-Model was sold to private Reitervereine with the "Gott mit uns!"-Slogan.

That means not, Wilhelm, that I disbelieve your statement!

But possibly my english isn't good enough to point it out.

There were more post-war buckle with the same motto.
There was no other symbol before the horse,as for example
the buckle with the edelweiss. Through this one can see
the army eagle.

I have the price-list. Believe it or not, I don't care!

[Nightwish]

I believe you!

The only News to me have been the selling for private organisatins, like a Reiterverein.