Panzer Units and Marking - Czech Republic 1945

[harrison987]

Hey guys...

I stumbled across this image online. Author is claiming the emblem is for "Grossdeutschland"...but they were nowhere near Karlsbad (Cz) in 1945, as afar as I know.

Can anyone actually ID this supposed "helmet in a circle" emblem?

TIA

Mike

[MarcoPennisi]

You got that right, “supposed” helmet-in-a-circle emblem. I’d check that the unit emblem on the SdKFZ 251/9 pictured in Karlsbad is that of GD division. What about a fuzzy image of the official unit emblem of 11. Panzer-Division (which surrendered in the region)?

[harrison987]

Thanks for the reply...



Dot think so on it being 11th either.

This is annoying.

ARG.

Cross referencing the units that had the sdkfz. 251/9 on the eastern front...these are the only unit emblems it can be:

ARMEE GROUP BALK

1 Panzer Division
3 Panzer Division
6 Panzer Division
3 SS Panzer Division
5 SS Panzer Division
20 Panzer Division
13 Panzer Division
23 Panzer Division
Panzer Division FHH


HEERESGRUPPE A

8 Panzer Division
Panzer Division Grossdeutschland
Panzer Division Brandenburg
16 Panzer Division
17 Panzer Division
20 Panzer Gren. iDvision
19 Panzer Division
25 Panzer Division
1 Panzer Division


HEERESGRUPPE MITTE


4 Panzer Division
24 Panzer Division
7 Panzer Division
Stu. Pi. Brig. 627
5 Panzer Division


HEERESGRUPPE NORD

14 Panzer Division
11 SS. Freiw. Panzer Division Nordland
12 Panzer Division


That said...

based on geographic location (Karlsbad)...the only units that it can be narrowed down to is:

HEERESGRUPPE A

8 Panzer Division
Panzer Division Grossdeutschland
Panzer Division Brandenburg
16 Panzer Division
17 Panzer Division
20 Panzer Gren. iDvision
19 Panzer Division
25 Panzer Division
1 Panzer Division


HEERESGRUPPE MITTE


4 Panzer Division
24 Panzer Division
7 Panzer Division
Stu. Pi. Brig. 627
5 Panzer Division


So...................

Noe the issue is, NONE of these logos match up with the logo shown.

is there some sort of obscure unit emblem out there that I do not know about? Or is the artist/author of the above image, correct?