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Panzer II is not my area, sorry
Carles
Panzer II is not my area, sorry
Carles
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not being an expert isn't a problem, neither am I. When I decided to try and construct a whole vehicle I decided on a particular variant and that is what I am trying to recreate. None fo its been easy but then, I wouldn't have started if I had thought that it would be. When the early C variant came out of the factory it had the early style turret and none of the armour modifications. So I could, if I had wanted, modified the front to get rid of the curve but what about inside. The hull front modification was to add sheets over the original curved surface so from inside you would still see the curve.
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Mr. Moore,
Excellent update to your PZ construction, it is really starting to take shape. For the front plate, did you bend the front plate with a press or did you heat and tack weld as you bent it over the front radius? Also, what were you looking at for a transmission and power plant? I suppose a good, gas inline 6 cylinder motor would be right to fit in the rear compartment? Again, well done sir!
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Hi Steve,
Good questions, I should have taken some pictures of the process, maybe I will in future. It was a very Neanderthal process. The sheet was tack welded on the base of the hull then I welded three long lengths of 2" steel angle on to the other end of the sheet to give me some extra leverage. Using 5 ratchet straps, I pulled the sheet around the curve of the hull and welding it as the two surfaces came in contact with each other. It needed heat as well, just to soften things up.
I have got an engine, not my first choice but I hope that it will do. The original was a six cylinder petrol producing around 140 BHP in a tank weighing 9 tons. I wanted something basic, I don't want computers and spares have to be readily available. The engine that I have is a four cylinder turbo diesel producing approximately 110 BHP in a tank that I estimate will weigh about 5 tons. The engine is shorter than the original and so I am hoping that the engine and gear box, a 5 forward 1 reverse box, will fit in to the engine bay. The original had a remote gearbox and clutch which would be a real headache. If my cunning plan works out, life will be a lot simpler, if it doesn't, then its plan B. Then of course I will have a large space at the front of the hull where the gear box should be, I am going to make a false gear box which will be empty apart from a reduction unit and the differential. Its not going to be easy and I am working on the details but I am confident. With some luck and a good wind, I should get the rest of the strengthening ribs and bearing houses in over the next week and then I can test fit the engine/gearbox.
But first I need to get over the dreaded Man Flu.
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Hi John!
Good job!
Also engaged in building layouts. The interior was not recreated. There was no such problem.
It makes sense when restoring original cars.
I want to warn my experience, do not put as a mechanism of turning the ordinary differential, will be sorely disappointed. Machine with differential turns very hard. And hard and the engine, and a large force on the control lever. Better to pick a mechanism with a clutch.
Here is my "antipode" of your car(the Soviet T-60)
https://youtu.be/pGK4YLdUIiMComment
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Hi Jon!
Good job!
Also do models of armored vehicles. The interior was not recreated. There was no such problem.
It makes sense when restoring original cars.
I want to warn my experience, do not put as a mechanism of turning the ordinary differential, will be sorely disappointed. Machine with differential very hard managed. And hard and the engine, and a large force on the control lever. Better to pick a mechanism with a clutch.
Here is my "antipode" of your car(the Soviet T-60)Comment
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Alex,
What type of differential/transmission is in your T60? I assume it is the transmission and steering box for a T60? Do you think a T60 transmission with steering box would fit a Panzer II?Comment
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Hi Alex,
Thanks for the advice it is very much appreciated. The problem is finding a mechanism that incorporates a clutch. Where did you get your mechanism from, what vehicle? Your T60 looks very impressive and very manoeuvrable.
Regards,
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Стив, Джон, Привет!
Много чего хотелось бы написать, но языковой барьер...
Мой Т60 макет легкого класса. Он весит 1,3 тонны. Рулевой редуктор - дифференциал.
Даже на такой легкой машине это мало пригодится. Сейчас переделывают на сцепление.
Был редуктор заднего моста Форд Скорпио. Собираюсь поставить редуктор заднего моста от Хонда Легенда
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Google translate:
"Steve, John, Hello!
Many things I would like to write, but the language barrier ...
My T60 is a lightweight class layout. It weighs 1.3 tons. Steering reducer - differential.
Even with such a light car this is of little use. Now they are reworking the clutch.
There was a rear axle gearbox Ford Scorpio. I'm going to put the rear axle reducer from Honda Legend"
CarlesComment
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Джон, я думаю, что вы можете использовать его(редуктор заднего моста Хонда легенд), но только с боковым редуктором 1:5.
Сцепление на нем электрическое. Необходимо предусмотреть бортовые тормоза и ручник. Это проблема.
В общем, мы в России, на машинах, как ваша использовать главную пару от гусеничных вездехода ГАЗ 71
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Jon, in Moscow, built PZ II, I think you will be interested
http://livinghistory.ru/topic/48425-pz-ii-ausff/Comment
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Originally posted by airborne_steve View Post
On T60 installed the power unit from a small car. The output of 30 horsepower. 2 of the cylinder.
The differential pair of the main transmission is locked by welding.
With one of the axle shafts is removed, the torque on the steering gearbox.
The side gears are missing. gearbox is controlled by cables.Comment
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Alex,
Thanks, that's fantastic , its all very interesting and great information, I just need to work it all out now. The panzer being built in Russia is amazing, I wish that I could read Russian and my internet is far too slow to translate it all.
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Alex,
Looking at your interior picture, where are your steering brakes?Comment
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