Michael Wittman Ville Bocage

[novedvory]

2 were flak victims and the pilots killed. The third was lost to an engine failure.
1st lost 10:45
2nd at 16:15
third at 20:30.
They have no connection to Wittmann's demise at 12:45

Surely not for the first one but who knows for the 2 others
Is there known mission reports for the two last ?
I'll be curious to read them !

[Luis22]

Schnellmeyer, I understand completely now and thank you for taking the time to explain. Yes as an author it is important to understand the deeper context to what was typically a one sided story world wide.

There were some excellent postwar unit histories written in German that came out in the 50s. Most of the world would not have seen these due to language barriers or unwilling publishers. The vast majority are still to date untranslated. The earliest German version of events was published in 1947.

Another little known book printed in the United States is the unpublished stories from Yank magazine. The copyright is in the 50s. This dog eared gem repeatedly mentions the sort of out of hand killing of German PWs for things like simply not keeping up after capture. I'd say very early for that type of admission of a war crime. It would take Stephen Ambrose or to an extent Steven Spielberg to get many to understand that WW2 was never as clear cut as our history books or teachers presented it to us as.

Sad that you had to wait until the 1980s to get to another side of events

The material was actually always there.

Far richer though would be your experience. I hope your book does well.

I doubt that Wittman had grey hair he was a young fellow...

[MG-Freak]

Here's a nice docu about Wittmanns last battle. Incl an interview with the owner/farmer of the land where the Tigers were knocked out.

http://youtu.be/mCNz7OC8YIs

[S Spade]

Yann (seen in the above video) has a book on Villers completed. It will be out in French this year. It will have the first referenced count of Wittmann's tank kills. No more than 10 and and no less than 8..

[Darrell]

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one of the parts who survived the 007 !
but there are some others in private collections

And I'm sure if you put them all in one room you could build about 3 Tigers ...

[novedvory]

And I'm sure if you put them all in one room you could build about 3 Tigers ...

Unfortunately: NO

If you want to see the parts from the 2 others Normandy Tigers , it's here:
http://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/s...d.php?t=648575

and if you know where searching, you can find that:
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[Gran Sasso]

In this you are falsch.

Du hast recht - und ich hab mei´ Ruh´.

[Schnellmeyer]

Hi Lloyd I , thanks for your reply and sorry for not replying sooner . Getting a balance account is not a easy thing to get but meeting vets does give one a better insight .
I wish I could have met the vets earlier in my life but I was only born in the 1960's , however I still consider lucky to have met as many as I did .
I was in the The Tank Museum in Bovington last week and got to spend some time around the three Tigers there , wow .
While there I watched a video on the capture of the Tiger 1 , on it there was a interview with Lt. Peter Gudging of the 48 Royal Tank Rgt who was involved in the action on that day . He gives a clear account of the actions on that day , they were ordered to attack the Tigers and German positions . He said it was madness ( or words to that effect ) that they were ordered to attack and before he knew it his sherman was knocked out . I guess Allied commanders also made bad decisions !!!!
Thanks for wishing me well with my book , please God after a few delays it will hit the shelves this yea.r