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    Hi.
    What is the correct code RAL Dunkelgelb used after 1943? RAL 1000 or RAL 7028 ?

    I would like to restore my truppenfahrrad on tan.

    #2
    7028 was used after march 1943 as far as i know .

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      #3
      RAL 1000 never was "dunkelgelb", it was Elfenbein (ivory). Dunkelgelb was RAL 7028 and the colour changed into a darker version in 1944 still in the same code RAL 7028.

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        #4
        that RAL number is not current - you will need to get it matched

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          #5
          Thanks for info guys! I need restored my truppenfahrrad.

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            #6
            Originally posted by kingtiger332 View Post
            RAL 1000 never was "dunkelgelb", it was Elfenbein (ivory). Dunkelgelb was RAL 7028 and the colour changed into a darker version in 1944 still in the same code RAL 7028.
            Piotr,

            Thomas Chory lists "elfenbein" as RAL 1001.

            His reference also contains five variation colour chips for "Dunkelgelb" RAL 7028

            I wouldn't get too hung up about trying to replicate an exact colour as your paint job will be as close to accurate as any random factory mix from the period.

            Regards, Mike.

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              #7
              You will always have problems trying to match the colours. I have many dunkelgelb items and the inside untouched paint never matches with the outside. Time, air oxidation, rust, grease and dust change the tone of the paint...so it is extremly difficult to get something look original, it will always look mint (till you let 70 years pass). I also have some optic with parts in two different tones of dunkelgelb, due to a different batch of paint used when painting the parts separately. There are also some paints that are mate and others that are shiny.

              Carles
              Last edited by me6_130; 12-21-2013, 08:01 AM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by philip turland View Post
                that RAL number is not current - you will need to get it matched
                Agree... Current RAL numbers do not match those RAL codes of WW2.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mike Swan View Post
                  Piotr,

                  Thomas Chory lists "elfenbein" as RAL 1001.

                  His reference also contains five variation colour chips for "Dunkelgelb" RAL 7028

                  I wouldn't get too hung up about trying to replicate an exact colour as your paint job will be as close to accurate as any random factory mix from the period.

                  Regards, Mike.
                  It is known that germans used RAL 1001 elfenbein (not 1000 as elfenbein), but RAL 1000 - the starter of the thread came up with - is a beige color, sometimes called "elfenbein" too.

                  Thomas Chory made its RAL 7028 variants of original relicts and they don't show exactly the two original tones but shades due to different manufacturers, users and weathering situations. It is not constructive because they are countless. He also did not realize, that there was an official RAL 7028 Ausgabe 1944.

                  Best wishes!
                  Jens

                  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Histo...7975211?ref=hl

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                    #10
                    Ral 1001

                    Hi Guys

                    I know RAL 1001 ( Ivory) was used to paint the inside of armoured vehicles, but the modern Ivory looks to dark. Does anyone know the nearest match to wartime RAL 1001 I would need use.

                    From coloured pictures of restored vehicles it looks to be nearer white.

                    Hoping someone can help.

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                      #11
                      Sorry mate...don't know

                      Inside of the blitz will be grey and brown leatherette

                      Kettenkrad didn't really have an interior and the kubel is the same as the outside

                      stuG per chance

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                        #12
                        Thanks for the reply Philip.

                        Mainly for the interior of Panzers and yes for the StuG armour I Have.

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                          #13
                          Hi!
                          Sorry,but do not use color photos for detailed color comparisons,that's the wrong way.The old RAL1001 (from the last years of war) was definitive exactly the same like the modern hue.I have checked this on the inside of a german tank.I don't know,which photos you have used for this color definition,but it is rel. logical,that it seems to be brighter then in reality...

                          Regards!

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