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I challenge anyone to post a picture of any vehicle that has this exact type of muzzle brake.
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Is this a challenge to which you know the answer or are you actually asking Dallas? The inner diameter at the rear would be helpful in determining which weapon it's from.
In overall form, it looks quite similar to the muzzle break of the 7,5cm Pak 40 or the Panzer IV's 7,5cm Kw.K. 40 L/48...
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Nope, Matt, I don't know the answer.
I know the inner dimensions are for a 75mm. I thought as you that it was from a PaK 40 or Panzer IV, but the muzzle formation is different from any pics I have seen. Notice how the band in the rear looks more rectangular. I have seen only circular formations on Panzers, and PaK's. The interior construction is like any other German muzzle brake I have seen. I was thinking it was a muzzle brake specifically outfitted for a captured Russian 7.62 AT gun used on a Marder III.
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Muzzle Brake
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Are you sure that it is German. At the Museum which I help to run we have a Working Sherman with the 76mm gun and that looks almost Identical to its muzzle brake. I looked at some pictures on the web and it looks pretty similar. Hope that helps.
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looks like an m26 muzzlebreak
This isnt a very good shot of the muzzlebreak but a good one of the tankComment
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Actually, it was the 'ground down' rear portion that didn't fit with the Pak 40/ Kw.K. 40 muzzle break for me too- they both have a round rear section. I actually hadn't thought that the US would have copied the German design so closely- but then again, if it works...
Looking at a bunch of images of M26 Pershings, I can see what Cam and Poke are saying- it sure looks like a US muzzle break. Another thing that should tell is actually a lack of markings- I'd expect that if it were German, it'd be marked somehow with at least the manufacturer's code letters. Individual track links were marked, so I'd sure expect an important part like the muzzle break would be.
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No I am not 100% sure it is German, but the interior looked a lot of what I've seen German muzzle brakes look like. I hadn't considered an American tank. I'll have to look at this angle closer too!Comment
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I'm with Cam on this. It looks exactly like the muzzle brake on the US 76mm M1A2 gun as found on later Shermans and some M18 tankdestroyers. Though that would mean a caliber of 76.2mm or 3".Originally posted by Cam_S
Not a terribly good picture but you get the drift:
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A Marder III
So no one thinks it could go to this.Comment
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Side shot of a model.Comment
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I doubt it. If you look at the underside of that 7,62cm PaK(r), the lower part of the muzzle brake is very angular, almost like a flat "V". I've got a shot from a 7,62cm PzJg 38t in the Saumur museum where it can be seen quite clearly.Originally posted by Dallas
The Sherman item is more rounded in appearance like then one in your picture.
But what about diameter? Can you measure whether it is 76.2mm or 75mm?Comment
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You're right. If it were 75mm it couldn't be that version of the Marder III. My friend swears it's 75mm. But he also swears it's from a PaK 40. Unfortunately, he can swear all he likes, but it just isn't from any Pak 40 I've ever seen. He's in Poland and I suspect that it's from a brewed up lend-lease Sherman carved up for scrap after the war. I wish it were a PaK 40. I'd take one of those for a door stop any day.
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