Near my House, tactical symbol Panzerjaeger.

[Pie]

Hi All,
I don't know if this is the right section of the Forum.
I want to show you this written in a farmhouse near my house. (I live in Mugello, near Florence).

Raum Belegt= busy local

And the tactical symbol of a Panzerjaeger unit. Maybe the Panzerjäger-Abteilung 715 or the Fallschirm-Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 4.

Ciao a Tutti!

[novedvory]

Hi All,
I don't know if this is the right section of the Forum.
I want to show you this written in a farmhouse near my house. (I live in Mugello, near Florence).

Raum Belegt= busy local

And the tactical symbol of a Panzerjaeger unit. Maybe the Panzerjäger-Abteilung 715 or the Fallschirm-Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 4.

Ciao a Tutti!

[Bernhard]

Most interresting that this writing is still there after so many years.
Amazing and thanks for showing !

[Pie]

Thanks to both of you!

Most interresting that this writing is still there after
so many years.
Amazing and thanks for showing !

Yes, it is very difficult to find such written nowadays.
Unfortunately, the owners want to renovate the house...

[pak 40]

wel you could ask to take the plaster of the wall , like i see it shouldn be a hard job. because its loose. i have seen article's where they cut out a whole wall for the art not to be lost to preserve it.

[NickG]

Very cool. Would be neat if it can be preserved!
"Raum belegt" actually means "room (building) is occupied" , in other words a unit already took possession of this "roof over their heads"...
so others need to seek elsewhere for shelter!

[Ironcrown]

Ciao Pie!
Very nice indeed
Soldiers from this unit fought at the Giogo Pass in September 1944 and one of them was recovered just few months ago! He was from the 3.Kp; now he rests at the Futa Pass war cemetery.

[Pie]

Yes, would be very a good thing preserve the wall! I inform if it'possible!


Best Regards,

[Pie]

Ciao Pie!
Very nice indeed
Soldiers from this unit fought at the Giogo Pass in September 1944 and one of them was recovered just few months ago! He was from the 3.Kp; now he rests at the Futa Pass war cemetery.

Hi Ironcrown, I read the news on the newspaper!
So at the Giogo Pass there were some Stug?

[Ironcrown]

No, as far as I know Fallsch. Pz. Jg. Abt.4 had only guns (Pak) and Panzerschreck. In October 1944 the 3rd company was sent to Calderara di Reno (near Bologna) for training on the Stugs. The unit had in schedule to be equipped with Skoda Sturm-Panzern in april 1945, but at the end of the war it was still on foot

In any case, considering the terrain, I think that at the Giogo pass the anti tank batallion fought mostly as normal infantry. You must know the place, and will agree that it would be almost impossible for a Sherman tank to reach the pass avoiding the main road (that of course was strongly defended).

Some armoured vehicles were actually present at the Giogo pass, but from another unit: the Fallschirm Sturmgeschuetz Brigade 11, of the I. Fallschirm-Korps.

[Jean-Loup]

Archaeologists have a technique for removing plaster from walls, this thing would be nice to preserve, thought it is perhaps not as precious as a roman mosaic.
It is certainly possible to preserve this, though it may be expensive.

In Croatia I saw some houses that still had inscriptions such has "Croatian home", from the 1991-95 war, so that the house wouldnt be burned down.

[Ironcrown]

Yes of course, this possibility has already been considered by the local war museum, but before doing it the authorization of the owner should be obtained
I think that in a next future they will try to do something to preserve it.
It's clear that the writings in the way they display now will not resist for long time. Maybe 10, 15 years? Then they will be gone.