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    #16
    Originally posted by paddywhack View Post
    realy!! where was that??????????????
    Most of the turret was excavated in 2001 near Mantes-la-Jolie in France, the rest is still in the hole.

    The turret parts:


    The plan is to excavate the complete tank and restore it for a memorial, here's a link to a website with more information (in French only though).

    http://www.vexinhistoirevivante.com/memorial_tigre.html

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      #17
      now THATS cool!!thanks for the link!!

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        #18
        Originally posted by Steve Sherlock View Post
        Near perfect?? Sounds like some of our members' definition of "mint condition" when they try to sell something on the estand...

        Steve


        Yea, including the term RARE, and then you look at what someone thinks is rare its like WTF does that rare mean, like pink with blood from your steak?

        This "new" language that people are using is confusing to us older folks, thats for sure.

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          #19
          Whats the reason for not digging it out If it was on my land i would have dug it out straight away not leave it for seven years?

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            #20
            Originally posted by Mat Holloway View Post
            Whats the reason for not digging it out If it was on my land i would have dug it out straight away not leave it for seven years?
            Because they can not dug it up .
            It lays directly near a road .
            Last edited by WenRan; 06-06-2008, 04:42 PM.

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              #21
              A little translation

              A P47 bombed this King Tiger number 124

              They say , there is only one King tiger in France.
              I do not believe that.

              The GI's and locals where jumping on the Tiger when it fell in the hole made by the bomb off the P47.

              Everybody know's that everybody pi++ed there pant's to come in combat with
              a King Tiger.

              In the combat of VEXIN 2.500 soldiers Died , German and Allies togheter.

              Afther long search , and found .
              The German DDR gave all the clearence to recover and restore and keep the tank.

              And then blabla .

              Then a pic how the memorial will look like when the Tiger will be recoverd
              Someday ..........

              hopes this helps a bit

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                #22
                blabla, is that a new repair depot somewhere in politicoland?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Rich Moran View Post
                  blabla, is that a new repair depot somewhere in politicoland?

                  Hawaii maybe

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                    #24
                    Randy, we have MORE than our share of that in the Bannana Republic of the Great unsoverign kingdom state of Hawaii in the US.

                    Just the name itself of all of it makes one realize how messed up it can really be.

                    Can't find that depot address tho....

                    Do know a couple people who do own tracked vehicles, one a Stuart powered by twin Cadillac 474's I believe, a white scout car (not tracked) and another person who owns a half track with a quad 50 set up.

                    With fuel prices going up all the time, iIam sure their forrays a quite shorter than ever.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by WenRan View Post

                      Afther long search , and found .
                      The German DDR gave all the clearence to recover and restore and keep the tank.
                      If my rusty french is correct the DDE is the "Direction Départementale de l'Équipement" which is the French Department of Transportation. Permits to excavate were needed as the hull is under a main road. Where on earth did you get DDR from?

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                        #26
                        Well, here are some more explanations about the King Tiger turret found near Mantes-La-Jolie, France : AFAIK, only some parts of the turret were recovered. That is to say : the left side, the half of the right side, the bottom and the upper part of the turret, all dismounted from each other. The gun and the mantlet were not recovered. 99% of the internal parts are missing.

                        The guy who recovered the turred asked the political authorities to make a hole in the road (because the tank is under the road...) in order to recover the hull (which is, like the turret, in small bits..). The problem is the cost of 1 square of newly made macadam road, it's quite expensive and no one will pay for recovering the parts and rebuilding the road when done. The other major problem is that there are several unexplosed ammos close to the wreck. 88mm shells were found with the turret parts and the French demining team is not willing to risk the death of anyone only for little steel bits.

                        You may know that rebuilding such a tank with the little parts/bits which were found will be very expensive and complicated, because one has to use specific welding process because the German steel contained a lot of carbon in 1944. So you can't weld these bits like you do with your sherman or stuart parts..

                        Last but not least, why is this tank in small bits? After the war, in the late 40's, the scrap dealers used to place huge explosive charges in tanks to make them explode, it's the best way to cut a tank in pieces, instead of cutting it with a torch. The problem is that there were accidents and some scrap dealers died, so this was forbidden and it seems that the Kingtiger, even if it was in small parts, was buried under the road.

                        P-O

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                          #27
                          the full story with photos can be found on page 154 in After the Battles "Ruckmarsch Then and Now"
                          dennis

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