Any recent photos of the Lenino Snegiri Tiger

[kristensen]

Dear Sirs.

Does any of you have recent pictures of the Lenino Snegiri Tiger? Is it all scrap now or....

[r_hufschmied]

Check out this gallery, it's from from last year:

http://www.tanxheaven.com/zbc/TigerI...Snegirizbc.htm

[Mike Davis]

It is a pity that such a significant vehicle has been left to the tender mercies of the weather and vandals...

[kristensen]

Hi r_hufschmied.

Nice pictures. Thanks for the link.

[Panzer Rob]

It is a pity that such a significant vehicle has been left to the tender mercies of the weather and vandals...

I AGREE 100%. It's a crime imho to let something so rare and historically significant to the history of AFV's to be left out to decay like that. Pure ignorance if you ask me.

Don't get me started on APG

[Robert T.]

I AGREE 100%. It's a crime imho to let something so rare and historically significant to the history of AFV's to be left out to decay like that. Pure ignorance if you ask me.

Don't get me started on APG

Knowing that so few tiger tanks still exist today, you would think that it would be looked after and preserved .
Here is a list of the surviving t. tanks ;
http://www.alanhamby.com/survivors.html
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Robert

[r_hufschmied]

Indeed a shame. As is the Vimoutiers Tiger. The Lenino Tiger is in worse shape than the pictures might indicate, the complete gun barrel is a sheet metal replica as the original barrel was torch cut at the mantlet.

[Napalm]

Would there be any point in contacting the museum curator in charge of the vehicle and letting her/him know of our concerns on her/his oibvious delelection of duty and I know money is the problem etc:...

[panzer ace]

very saddning

[r_hufschmied]

Would there be any point in contacting the museum curator in charge of the vehicle and letting her/him know of our concerns on her/his oibvious delelection of duty and I know money is the problem etc:...

I don't know if it would do any good. I know money has been offered for it, quite a lot of money but nothing has happened. It was a part of a scam a few years back as well when a shady character put it up for sale.

It has been said before, it is a shame that two of the few surviving Tiger Ausf. E are left unrestored and in the open. There are plenty of well preserved parts around so a full restoration of either the Vimoutiers or Lenino Tiger
wouldn't be so difficult. Structural damage is another matter as both have been blown up and subjected to torch cutting, the Vimoutiers Tiger being the more complete of the two.

From what I've heard the Vimoutiers county council was offered an exact replica but they declined.

[RTY]

There are plenty of well preserved parts around so a full restoration of either the Vimoutiers or Lenino Tiger
wouldn't be so difficult.

Do you have an experience in restoration to say what is easy and what is difficult?
Have you seen detailed photos of Snegiri' Tiger?
For example, photos of an engine with crankshaft visible from outside?
Or gearbox that is separated from steering device?

The Snegiri' Tiger is a very difficult object for restoration.
The first and maybe one of the most difficult tasks is to make a decision what is a target of restoration.
Restoration up to a running condition would cost tremendous money and huge problems.
Bovington' Tiger was restored more than 10 years.
But Snegiri' Tiger is in greatly worse condition.

It seems to me, the target of Snegiri' Tiger restoration must be cleaning and conservation of it "as is".

[Alte110thpzgr]

Snegiri Tiger

At the least, the tank should be sand blasted and repainted I then a roofed structure built over it. Maybe on of the European members here could contact the curator of the museum, set up a bank account, for donationations to save whats there! I would donate a $100.00 a year for a project like that.

Do you have an experience in restoration to say what is easy and what is difficult?
Have you seen detailed photos of Snegiri' Tiger?
For example, photos of an engine with crankshaft visible from outside?
Or gearbox that is separated from steering device?

The Snegiri' Tiger is a very difficult object for restoration.
The first and maybe one of the most difficult tasks is to make a decision what is a target of restoration.
Restoration up to a running condition would cost tremendous money and huge problems.
Bovington' Tiger was restored more than 10 years.
But Snegiri' Tiger is in greatly worse condition.

It seems to me, the target of Snegiri' Tiger restoration must be cleaning and conservation of it "as is".

[r_hufschmied]

Do you have an experience in restoration to say what is easy and what is difficult?
Have you seen detailed photos of Snegiri' Tiger?
For example, photos of an engine with crankshaft visible from outside?
Or gearbox that is separated from steering device?

The Snegiri' Tiger is a very difficult object for restoration.
The first and maybe one of the most difficult tasks is to make a decision what is a target of restoration.
Restoration up to a running condition would cost tremendous money and huge problems.
Bovington' Tiger was restored more than 10 years.
But Snegiri' Tiger is in greatly worse condition.

It seems to me, the target of Snegiri' Tiger restoration must be cleaning and conservation of it "as is".

With not so difficult I was referring to parts, if you read my last comment I pointed out the severe structural damage. No, I have no practical experience regarding tank restoration. And, yes I have seen fairly detailed pictures of the Lenino-Snegiri Tiger, before and after the first cosmetic "restoration" when they applied the mock-up gun barrel but I fail to see your point? I agree that the Lenino-Snegiri Tiger would be a very difficult restoration as would the Vimoutiers Tiger, I've never said anything else. If the either Tiger would be on sale I guess there would be at least 2-3 buyers with a target set for running condition, money is no problem for these players. After seeing what Mike Gibb could do with a shot/blown up Jagdpanther I doubt close to nothing. The Bovington Tiger was funded and dependent on donations and a lottery, thus work progressed slowly.

[Mat Holloway]

If something has been made once anything is possible! A full restoration is possible it will be the mechanical parts that will be expensive.

[PANZERPIONIERE]

What a crime!