Forgotten German tanks still in place?

[dread]

wow thanks for the links
thats some kool stuff

[NavyFCO]

I can't help with German ones, but I can tell you that several American tanks are in about 6 feet of water, about 100 feet off the beach in Saipan. Or, at least they were there when I saw them in 2001!

Dave

[Juliusheide]

Hi all.

What about the attack from the ss-panzerdivisons to relefe the garison holding Budapest..
Since the attack was in the spring the roads and fields was full of mud..
Have read that alot of equipment and tanks just simply sank into the mud..
Porsonaly i don't know...


Regards Peder

[Aave Johns]

Another Link

Try this link, it covers alltypes of military equipment from WW2, but features plenty of armour.

http://www.lerenfort.fsnet.co.uk/

To Will Brown, the Israelis used old German tank turrents for static defence, possibly at the Golan Heights. Somewhere on this forum there are photos.

Regards;
Johnsy

[DonC]

The Syrian Army used Mark IV's and I believe STuGs in the '48 war - I believe they got them from the Czechs, but I don't know for sure.

Don

[Will Brown]

Thanks for the info on the use of Mark IV tanks after WWII guys. Syria. That jogged my memory, and I now recall having heard that Syria was the country that used them. As to their origin, who knows?

And as long as someone has posted the lerenfort link, check out the coolest "exhibit" regarding German armour. A bitter-sweet discovery, to be sure.

http://www.lerenfort.fsnet.co.uk/page67.html

[Lynton Battrick]

Hi,
Here is another link that might be of interest to you.
The whole site is good, but have a loook at the page on tanks, there are some very interesting articles on there.

http://www.geocities.com/military_ar...y/about_us.htm


Best regards,Lynton.

[Juliusheide]

Hi.

Heres an well know pic of an pz4 in the syrian army..


Peder

[DonC]

Note the STuG behind it! I believe these both now reside in an Israeli military museum, if memory serves me - there is another thread on this forum about the Syrian Panzers with some period pictures - here's the link: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Syrian+IV

Don

[Juliusheide]

Thanks Don, realy interesting!

Peder

[Mat Holloway]

Anybody fancy popping over to syria to find them

[DonC]

Hell, the Syrians may be getting nervous about now and seeing if they still turn over!

Don

[Mat Holloway]

Hell, the Syrians may be getting nervous about now and seeing if they still turn over!

Don

itll be a while since those old hulks of metal have seen an airstrike!

[Doug Kenwright]

re: going to Syria..as an infidel,i like my head just fine where it is...

[Alan Smith]

Re: Mark IV's in Syria

Years ago I read a book about the guy who founded Interarms - his name escapes me at the moment, but he was a big time arms dealer operating out of Alexandria, VA (USA) back in the 1950's-1960's.

Anyway, this guy did some deals with Syria many years ago. As part of his good relationship with Syria, the Syrians offered to give him one of their surplus Mark IV's - all he would need to do would be to arrange for transport back to the U.S. Apparently the arms dealer was interested in putting the Mark IV on display outside of his headquarters in Alexandria, VA but eventually decided against it because he was unwilling to pay the transportation charges.

If I recall correctly, the book stated that the Syrians had rechambered the Mark IV's for a Com-Block cartridge and were using the tanks as dug-ins for static defense. I assume that all of these tanks have long since been cut for scrap, as the Syrians were getting rid of them when they offered one to the U.S. arms dealer some 4 or 5 decades ago.

This arms dealer later retired (an extremely wealthy man) to Monaco, where he died several years ago.

P.S.: The book may have been "Merchants of Death" or "The War Business" - possibly by an author named George Thayer.