Silver an Black Wound Badges

[Stormfighter]

I picked up these two wound badges in a lot of medals yesterday from a sixty-five-year-old man. The silver badge at left has the number "4" stamped on its pin. Can anyone tell me who made this badge? The black badge at right is also marked on the pin, but I can't quite read it. It looks like it could be L/10, L/16 or L/18. Can anyone tell me what the marking is likely to be and if so, who made this badge? Thanks in advance!

Barry

[Stormfighter]

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4 Steinhauer & Luck
L/10 Deschler & Sohn
L/16 Steinhauer & Luck
L/18 B.H. Mayer's Hofkunstprageanstalt

Maybe a close up of the mm on the black badge would help

Gr
Wim

[Stormfighter]

Thanks Wim! I just took a close-up of the pin of the BWB and it sure looks like L/18.

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L/18 i would say both look good

[Chrvip68]

I have to agree nice original '4' & 'L/18' ....